Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Joey Hess said: > > Ultimately, we are of the opinion that the content delivery problem is a > > solved one > > But apparently not one solved by free software included in Debian. > Perhaps it's worth avoiding using it if that will help encourage the > development of li

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] "Andrew M.A. Cater" > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 08:44:56AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > Dear Project, > > > > The System Administration Team (DSA) are considering moving some of the > > static hosting that Debian currently provides from our infrastructure to > > one or more CDNs. We have r

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Paul Wise > About the archive mirrors, some reworded thoughts from the DPL IRC > channel when this came up a few days ago: > > [...] I think the current state of affairs is fine; I don't believe you're one of the person who is doing the legwork in maintaining any of the CDNs we're currently

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ingo Jürgensmann > 1) Privacy concerns: Debian would deliver much more data to business > companies than necessary. Keep in mind that personalized data is one > of the most valuable things to data miners. Currently I choose one > mirror site to pull my packages from. I can freely choose that m

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Russ Allbery > Joey Hess writes: > > >> Ultimately, we are of the opinion that the content delivery problem is a > >> solved one > > > But apparently not one solved by free software included in Debian. > > Perhaps it's worth avoiding using it if that will help encourage the > > development

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Joey Hess writes: >> Ultimately, we are of the opinion that the content delivery problem is a >> solved one > But apparently not one solved by free software included in Debian. > Perhaps it's worth avoiding using it if that will help encourage the > development of libre alternatives. CDNs aren'

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Joey Hess wrote: > But apparently not one solved by free software included in Debian. > Perhaps it's worth avoiding using it if that will help encourage the > development of libre alternatives. I guess the hardest part of the problem is logistics to get machines a

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Paul Wise
About the archive mirrors, some reworded thoughts from the DPL IRC channel when this came up a few days ago: I would suggest forwarding/bouncing this mail to the debian-mirrors list. I think the current state of affairs is fine; some CDNs in use (cloudfront.d.n), some normal mirrors, mirror.d.o/h

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann
Am 13.10.2013 um 08:44 schrieb Tollef Fog Heen : > The System Administration Team (DSA) are considering moving some of the > static hosting that Debian currently provides from our infrastructure to > one or more CDNs. We have received feedback indicating that a broader > discussion is desired. > [

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Joey Hess
Interesting idea. If the Debian website is served to users directly from non-free software, and so is the archive, I have to wonder what would be the FSF's reaction to this. It seems to have some potential to burn bridges that I'd otherwise hope would get mended. > Ultimately, we are of the opini

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Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 08:44:56AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > Dear Project, > > The System Administration Team (DSA) are considering moving some of the > static hosting that Debian currently provides from our infrastructure to > one or more CDNs. We have received feedback indicating that a br

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-13 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
Tollef Fog Heen: > The System Administration Team (DSA) are considering moving some of the > static hosting that Debian currently provides from our infrastructure to > one or more CDNs. We have received feedback indicating that a broader > discussion is desired. > > Debian has, for over a decade,