torrent problem?

2013-11-27 Thread Neil Carter
Greetings: I don't know who to send this to, so... I recently downloaded the torrent for debian-update-7.2.0-i386-DVD-1.iso from your website. However, and please forgive me if I speak gibberish, I'm using BitTorrent 7.8.2 and it's reporting a problem with the torrent for this file only, all

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Norbert, Op 27-11-13 10:50, Norbert Preining schreef: [...] > In all these emails the attacks were directed *at* me from main > proponents or supporters of the CoC, except Wouter. Only through severe self-restraint. Your tone is fairly harsh, and I can assure you that it's very difficult for m

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Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
My last post, I swear. So, three or so people have came to me with this, so I'd like to clarify exactly what I was intending - because, frankly, every person that yells at me (and you all really should, please keep doing that) is proving the point I was trying to make. Namely (full mail below): >

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Norbert Preining writes ("Re: Code of Conduct: picking up"): > And exactely this is what I meant: Based on the Code of Conduct > I immediately got threatening emails by cc-ing the listmaster > to create the atmosphere of warning, and this was sent by a > prominent member of Debian. I think Norber

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-27 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Steve, On Di, 26 Nov 2013, Steve Langasek wrote: > is not a difficult concept to grasp, and I think your protestations here are > nothing but an excuse for ignoring the obvious social norms. What is "obvious" to you probably not necessarily "obvious" for me. In other circumstances I would call

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-27 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 26 Nov 2013, Russ Allbery wrote: > I think a better statement is that Debian tries to give decision-making > power to the people, selected from among those who are already involved in > the project, who have volunteered to do the implementation work. .. and are eager to obtain these positio

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 04:29:33PM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 06:21:21AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: > You're not being productive and you're really showing the type of > behavior that the CoC works to prevent. +1 Thanks to all those brave people working on CoC wh

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 06:07:58PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Debian is not a meritocracy. Real meritocracies are vanishingly rare, > and certainly no technical organization that is as lacking in > diversity as Debian is should claim to be a meritocracy. Simple > demographics show that it's not.

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Wouter Verhelst writes: > Second, and more to the point that I was trying to make, if indeed you > need social and writing skills to be able to reach positions of power in > Debian, then it's reasonable to assume people with the kind of behaviour > this code of conduct wants to encourage would be

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op 27-11-13 03:07, Russ Allbery schreef: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > >> I also don't think it's necessarily a bad thing if someone in Debian >> acquires a lot of power. We are very much a meritocracy; this means you >> can't acquire power without a lot of hard work. Once you've done the >> hard w