Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2014-02-08 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi James, On 08/02/14 at 13:48 +0800, James Bromberger wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/02/2014 11:46 AM, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > > Have you been trying to reach out to other CDN providers about supporting > > Debian? I know of > discussions with Amazon Cloud

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2014-02-08 Thread James Bromberger
On 8/02/2014 4:41 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Wasn't there an issue (that might not be CloudFront-specific) about the > refresh times of files in dists/? I remember reading about something > like that. In so much as the origin HTTP server doe snot set explicit cache expiry headers (mod_expires) on

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2014-02-08 Thread Simon Paillard
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 07:53:56PM +0800, James Bromberger wrote: > On 8/02/2014 4:41 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: [..] > > Sure, the hypothetical scenario which I'm worried about is: > > - there's only one CDN provider willing to support Debian, and able to > > meet our technical requirements > > -

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2014-02-08 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014, Simon Paillard wrote: > > I don't think Debian should shut down the mirror network; at least on a > > national level. For example, right now I am configuring Debian AMIs > > within China, and the only mirror I can access from there is > > ftp.cn.debian.org. > > I don't want t

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2014-02-08 Thread Simon Paillard
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 02:16:07PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Sat, 08 Feb 2014, Simon Paillard wrote: > > > > I don't think Debian should shut down the mirror network; at least on a > > > national level. For example, right now I am configuring Debian AMIs > > > within China, and the only m

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2014-02-08 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014, Simon Paillard wrote: > > In the end it matters little how we achieve these goals, but we should > > work towards them. > > We disagree on this, but in my opinion, we already achieve this with http.d.n > (except it's not DSA-sponsored and as consequence not official). http.

Re: Debian services and Debian infrastructure

2014-02-08 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi. Tollef Fog Heen writes: > ]] Lucas Nussbaum > >> > > 3. to provide a place to experiment with new services >> > >+ create a "Debian cloud" with virtual machines to develop new >> > > services >> > > (maybe providing manually-created VMs would be enough -- I'm not >> > > sure we

Questioning the TC's power to decide on technical policy

2014-02-08 Thread Ian Jackson
I'm quite concerned at the current line of enquiry being pursued by the Secretary in #727708. If I were in the Secretary's position I would refuse to entertain an argument that the TC is impermissibly doing "detailed design work" or has failed to allow "the usual maintainer of the relevant softwar

Re: Questioning the TC's power to decide on technical policy

2014-02-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Ian Jackson writes: > If someone made arguments along those lines I would advise the > Secretary to say that these things are matters for the DPL, and that > if a Developer feels that the DPL has overstepped the mark they should > use a General Resolution to do so. > > Likewise, if the TC is over

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2014-02-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Lucas Nussbaum > Thanks a lot for this status update. I'm very much in favor of exploring > ways to make the Debian infrastructure easier to manage, and using > a CDN sounds like a great way to do so. It's great that things worked > out with Fastly (any plans for a more public announcement?).

Re: Questioning the TC's power to decide on technical policy

2014-02-08 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 06:48:25PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I'm quite concerned at the current line of enquiry being pursued by > the Secretary in #727708. Ian, People ask me questions. Should I just ignore them because you think it's not a good time to answer them? I would also like to poin