Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 05:35:34PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi, On 22/02/14 at 20:57 -0500, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote: Has there been any analysis of how active the developers are? I'd hazard to guess that a good number should be moved to emeritus status. Perhaps we should do a

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 02:34:01AM +, Marco d'Itri wrote: enr...@enricozini.org wrote: It also took me a long while to switch because I didn't understand that it was already this urgent, Because unless you are paranoid, then it is not. If anybody disagrees then please describe a

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 27, Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org wrote: Because unless you are paranoid, then it is not. If anybody disagrees then please describe a credible threat model in which: - an entity would want to have access to the key of a DD, and - would find brute forcing a 1024 bit key more

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-02-27, Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org wrote: Well, a quick grep on the result shows that of those 652 uploads done using 1024b keys, only half of them were made since the beginning of 2013. 327 have been done *before* 2013. I guess those can't really be I'm unsure when I did my

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014, Wouter Verhelst wrote: - Wrap your lines at 80 characters or less for ordinary discussion. Lines longer than 80 characters are acceptable for computer-generated output (e.g., ls -l). - Do not send automated out-of-office or vacation messages. - Do not send test

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Enrico Zini writes (Re: State of the debian keyring): ...which reminds me of http://www.enricozini.org/2008/tips/audit-uploads/ which was a prototype of creating an audit log of key usage in debian. ... This means hooking into any place where a signature verification or a decryption actually

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Jonathan McDowell writes (Re: State of the debian keyring): On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 05:53:58PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Are we now at the stage where it is more important to retire these shortish keys, than to insist on this cross-signatures ? ... I'd rather avoid this if possible, but it's

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:19:23AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Feb 27, Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org wrote: Because unless you are paranoid, then it is not. If anybody disagrees then please describe a credible threat model in which: - an entity would want to have access to

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 01:18:58PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Jonathan McDowell writes (Re: State of the debian keyring): On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 05:53:58PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Are we now at the stage where it is more important to retire these shortish keys, than to insist on this

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:08:43AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2014-02-27, Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org wrote: Well, a quick grep on the result shows that of those 652 uploads done using 1024b keys, only half of them were made since the beginning of 2013. 327 have been done