Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread Anthony F McInerney
Would the people who are claiming that blank cdr are cheaper than dvdr, especially in third world countries, please cite sources (shops, price checkers etc) of the price of say 5 pack or 10 pack, even up to 50pack of CD's, vs the same amount of DVD's, from those third world countries. Is the price

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/10/2014 02:39 PM, Kees de Jong wrote: > Why are we discussing CD/DVD sizes? Why not just use an USB > netinstall? It's then possible to download and install the stuff you > need, if you don't want to use a lot of bandwidth then choose no > des

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Joel Rees wrote: (Having booted up a real OS, but still using Google's webmail fake MUA. heh.) > [...] > 2014/08/11 7:32 "Joel Rees" : >> 2014/08/08 6:58 "Jordi Mallach" : >> >> [...] >> > systemd embracing: One of the reasons to switch to Xfce was that it >> > d

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Rees
(Sure wish I could get drivers for this Acer tablet so I could get replace the vendor-constricted Android with a real OS and get software that wouldn't misinterpret what my fingers do on the screen. But, then, I suppose I should go to the trouble of booting up a regular computer for this.) 2014/08

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Rees
2014/08/08 6:58 "Jordi Mallach" : > > Hi Debian, > > It's been around 9 months since tasksel changed (for real) the default > desktop for new installs. At the time of the change, it was mentioned > the issue would be revisited before the freeze, around debconf time. > > Well, it's roughly that time

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Rees
2014/08/08 18:14 "Yves-Alexis Perez" : > > [...] > > Put it another way, Xfce (and other DEs) have been hurt by the various > enforced transitions (ConsoleKit, > hal/devicekit-power/upower/upower-0.99), yes. Combined with the lack of > resources, that means it lays behind the people who decided tho

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread David Weinehall
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > The issue here really is "how big is it?" rather than "hos many disks > [of which kind] does it fit onto?". > > "unable to fit on a single image" is not only about use of said storage > devices for installation, but also an i

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On 08/10/2014 02:39 PM, Kees de Jong wrote: > Why are we discussing CD/DVD sizes? Why not just use an USB > netinstall? It's then possible to download and install the stuff you > need, if you don't want to use a lot of bandwidth then choose no > desktop environment or XFCE/LXDE. But if you can spar

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-10 Thread Kees de Jong
Why are we discussing CD/DVD sizes? Why not just use an USB netinstall? It's then possible to download and install the stuff you need, if you don't want to use a lot of bandwidth then choose no desktop environment or XFCE/LXDE. But if you can spare some more time then you can install GNOME/KDE. See