Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Wookey
+++ Anthony F McInerney [2014-08-12 00:02 +0100]: >XFCE: > > total used free sharedbuffers cached >Mem:506756 362468 144288 6568 22756 179264 >-/+ buffers/cache: 160448 346308 >Swap: 392188

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 03:03 +0100, Anthony F McInerney a écrit : > I had stated previously XFCE had started showing memory usage similar > to gnome. This has quite obviously changed. I was wrong, and i'm > posting it as a correction to my statement. You’re comparing apples and oranges. These me

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On 12 August 2014 09:51, Wookey wrote: > > Could you do MATE too please? > > MATE: (with mate-desktop-environment-extras) free ^[[C total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 506756 397480 109276 7096 58820 166076 -/+ buffers/cache: 172584 334172 Swap: 392188 0 392188 The ctrl characters came wit

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 13:12 +0100, Anthony F McInerney a écrit : > Virtualbox Results (no guest drivers installed) Glxgears is not a relevant 3D benchmark. But the funniest thing is that you did this test without any 3D acceleration, which is not representative at all of most real-world comput

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
> > We happen at work to have users with very important needs of 3D > resources, so one of my colleagues conducted some performance tests with > and without a compositor (the compositor being GNOME 3). > > It turns out that with a recent adapter, 3D applications are running a > small bit faster und

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
I enjoy the way you keep ignoring the relevant points, memory usage and performance regressions. And the way you benchmarked gnome against gnome. How about warsaw on xfce on the same hardware or your benchmarks pretty much show nothing except that your 'slight performance increase when using gnome-

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Jordi Mallach writes ("Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop"): > It's been around 9 months since tasksel changed (for real) the default > desktop for new installs. At the time of the change, it was mentioned > the issue would be revisited before the freeze, around debconf time. Fascinat