Re: gmane equivalent

2015-01-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Ritesh Raj Sarraf writes (Re: gmane equivalent): But having it limited to an IP would have very limited use ? Many of us in developing nations have temp IP addresses provided by our ISPs. That's unfortunate. I don't have an easy answer to that apart from perhaps to use a server host

Re: Systemd

2015-01-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 01/19/2015 at 11:52 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Christian Mueller ch...@mumac.de writes: Quite a few pieces I may or may not be willing to part with but the printer driver is something I definitely need. If I had to guess, I'd say the previous udev-based script which loaded the printer

Re: Systemd

2015-01-20 Thread Russell Stuart
On Tue, 2015-01-20 at 17:56 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: So apparently it's PolicyKit, not ConsoleKit, but still almost certainly logind. I think that's PolicyKit wanting to use logind for something it previously used ConsoleKit for, and the changelog for the package seems to back that up.

Re: Systemd

2015-01-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 01/20/2015 at 08:56 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Really, the vast majority of dependencies on systemd in the archive are for things that want to use logind, generally indirected through libpam-systemd, and generally stuff that used to use ConsoleKit. The single most productive thing that

Re: Systemd

2015-01-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Russell Stuart russell-deb...@stuart.id.au writes: Sometime, I must really get my head around what these things do. Bits of what follows are almost certainly wrong. Corrections welcomed. [...] Part of the problem is PAM. I recall the day I was stunned to find the login didn't just exec

Re: Systemd

2015-01-20 Thread Russ Allbery
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes: On 01/19/2015 at 11:52 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Christian Mueller ch...@mumac.de writes: Quite a few pieces I may or may not be willing to part with but the printer driver is something I definitely need. If I had to guess, I'd say the previous