Re: Gobby notes from diversity/inclusion BOF/workshop, Cambridge

2016-11-15 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Thanks, Ian and Sean, first for publishing this Gobby notes, and then for the interesting idea exchange that resulted. I wanted to answer to Ian's mail on this same topic, but then Sean started writing things that I resonate with... So, the original text posted by Ian (to which Ian claims no author

Re: Gobby notes from diversity/inclusion BOF/workshop, Cambridge

2016-11-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 02:23:35PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >... > Robust discussion is important but the time to stop is *before*, not after, > it's become personal. Is it possible to have a 'personality moderator' role in > Debian which could be used to help calm down argument? >... "personal"

Re: Gobby notes from diversity/inclusion BOF/workshop, Cambridge

2016-11-15 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Gunnar, On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 01:14:24PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > But... Most of us joined when we were perfectly classifiable as > "young". So, something has clearly changed in a project that attracted > twenty-somethingers twenty years ago...? > > So, Sean says something quite simila

Re: Gobby notes from diversity/inclusion BOF/workshop, Cambridge

2016-11-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Adrian Bunk writes ("Re: Gobby notes from diversity/inclusion BOF/workshop, Cambridge"): > On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 02:23:35PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > >... > > Robust discussion is important but the time to stop is *before*, > > not after, it's become personal. Is it possible to have a > > 'per

Kicad Installation Issue Regard Of 4.0.4 Its Only Install 4.0.2 In Debian Jessie 8.5

2016-11-15 Thread ARAVIND B KUMAR
Hello Sir This Is Aravind From India We Are Try To Install Kicad 4.0.4 In Debain Jessie 8.5 But It Only Install 4.0.2 Can You Please Help Us How To Install Kicad 4.0.4 In Debian Jessie 8.5 We Are Try To Build And We Try Using PPA But It Install Only Kicad 4.0.2 We Are Looking Forward From You.

Re: Kicad Installation Issue Regard Of 4.0.4 Its Only Install 4.0.2 In Debian Jessie 8.5

2016-11-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, ARAVIND B KUMAR wrote: > We Are Try To Install Kicad 4.0.4 In Debain Jessie 8.5 But It Only Install > 4.0.2 Can You Please Help Us How To Install Kicad 4.0.4 In Debian Jessie 8.5 > We Are Try To Build And We Try Using PPA But It Install Only Kicad 4.0.2 Please c

Re: Gobby notes from diversity/inclusion BOF/workshop, Cambridge

2016-11-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 3:14 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Yes. The Debian culture is cast around older tools. We work mostly via > (plain-text!) email and IRC. And yes, I will argue (and even prove, as > we did for an online conference ~10 years ago, where IRC was proven > better than any other altern