Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

> The last time I was involved with an issue brought to the TC, it had > been brought after zero discussion between the person filing the bug > and the relevant team. Complaining to the TC about a bug that's been > dormant for years only a few days after resurrecting discussion about > it (AIUI)

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

> Steve> Better skills for handling interpersonal conflict can > never > Steve> be a bad thing. However, the Technical Committee exists > as a > Steve> decision-making body of last resort, when consensus is not > Steve> possible (because two parties have incompatible goals, or >

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

On November 3, 2017 9:09:31 PM EDT, Sam Hartman wrote: >> "Steve" == Steve Langasek writes: > >Steve> Hi Diane, >Steve> On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 11:48:05AM -0700, Diane Trout wrote: >>> I only just subscribed and only have read some of the

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

> "Steve" == Steve Langasek writes: Steve> Hi Diane, Steve> On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 11:48:05AM -0700, Diane Trout wrote: >> I only just subscribed and only have read some of the discussion >> so this may be a bit off topic or already discussed. >> But

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

Hi Diane, On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 11:48:05AM -0700, Diane Trout wrote: > I only just subscribed and only have read some of the discussion so > this may be a bit off topic or already discussed. > But I was wondering if the project has thought about explicitly > encouraging mentoring in techniques

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 03:24:21PM -0400, Marty wrote: > I recall the user debate being shut down before it had even started, > complete with censored posts and deleted threads, because the Maintainers > Have Spoken. Because they "did the work." Your user opinion is "noise." > I recall the

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

On 10/31/2017 01:36 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Russ Allbery There are two primary reasons why we're continuing to discuss this. One is that the decision went a direction that a lot of people didn't, and don't, like, and they're still unhappy about it. There's really nothing that can be

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: Ian> Thanks for your mail. I have trimmed vigorously the parts I Ian> agreed with :-). Thanks again for your mail. I also trim parts where I think we understand each other and seem to be in general agreement. I want to