Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Eldon Koyle
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 4:46 PM Russ Allbery wrote: > > Daniel Pocock writes: > > > and I reply with the strongest possible evidence, personal experience > > and scientific research. > In other words, you immediately turned the temperature up as high as you > could go and called on other people

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 02:14:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: > > > I was recently at the UN forum on business and human rights, listening > > to an Iranian dissident talk[1] about the extremes that his country goes > > to in censoring and silencing people who don't agree

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Daniel Pocock dijo [Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 09:31:46PM +]: > Hi all, Hello Daniel, I have to chime in here fully in support of what Russ, Steve and Paul have said. Your message starts as inflammatory and as far as possible from any attempt to cool down issues. It starts by accusing, by likening

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 11:18:51PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >If people want to pursue an anti-harassment objective in good faith, >then please start by realizing the existing team and their approach >needs careful examination, they need to make it a priority to put at the >front of their mind

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
I concur with Russ in the strongest of terms. I, too have no idea why a blog was removed, but I think we absolutely can and should if the post crosses lines. We, as a group of individuals working on a project together with shared resources working to maintain a constructive atmosphere must never

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/12/18 23:46, Russ Allbery wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: > >> and I reply with the strongest possible evidence, personal experience >> and scientific research. > You decided to distort a political issue that many of us feel strongly > about to attack a policy around what to republish in

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Pocock writes: > and I reply with the strongest possible evidence, personal experience > and scientific research. You decided to distort a political issue that many of us feel strongly about to attack a policy around what to republish in project-owned forums, which is only on a continuum

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/12/18 22:14, Russ Allbery wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: > >> I was recently at the UN forum on business and human rights, listening >> to an Iranian dissident talk[1] about the extremes that his country goes >> to in censoring and silencing people who don't agree with their rulers.  >> I

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Pocock writes: > I was recently at the UN forum on business and human rights, listening > to an Iranian dissident talk[1] about the extremes that his country goes > to in censoring and silencing people who don't agree with their rulers.  > I would encourage people to watch the video. >

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 09:31:46PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote: > I was recently at the UN forum on business and human rights, listening > to an Iranian dissident talk[1] about the extremes that his country goes > to in censoring and silencing people who don't agree with their rulers.  > I would

Censorship in Debian

2018-12-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
Hi all, I was recently at the UN forum on business and human rights, listening to an Iranian dissident talk[1] about the extremes that his country goes to in censoring and silencing people who don't agree with their rulers.  I would encourage people to watch the video. At that very same moment,