Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Roberto A. Foglietta
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 08:38, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 07:16, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > "Roberto A. Foglietta" writes: > > [...] > > No court ruling was ever emitted in favour of Google vs Oracle > leveraging fair use but it was an agreement between the two

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Russ Allbery
"Roberto A. Foglietta" writes: > A totally automatic procedure like web crawling and web indexing > re-enter in your example, perfectly. However, the input collection that > a ML/AI training system needs is a protectable work because the data > should be structured, selected and properly labeled

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Roberto A. Foglietta
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 07:16, Russ Allbery wrote: > > "Roberto A. Foglietta" writes: > > > - fair use cannot include {business, commercial, marketing} rights in > > anyway and in any conditions > > This is definitely not true in the United States; there is a Supreme Court > decision saying the

Re: From kali to debian

2023-02-26 Thread Arnaud Rebillout
Hello Flavio, On 27/02/2023 05:26, Flavio Brunetti wrote: I need to know if is possible to get debian from a Kali-rolling installation, without uninstall kali and reinstall debian. A better place to ask this questions would be either the Kali Linux forums at https://forums.kali.org/, or the

From kali to debian

2023-02-26 Thread Flavio Brunetti
Hi, I need to know if is possible to get debian from a Kali-rolling installation, without uninstall kali and reinstall debian. I need no more all kali tools and they take all my hdd space. Best regards, and many thanks in advance.

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Russ Allbery
"Roberto A. Foglietta" writes: > - fair use cannot include {business, commercial, marketing} rights in > anyway and in any conditions This is definitely not true in the United States; there is a Supreme Court decision saying the exact opposite. The ruling in Google v. Oracle said Google's

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2023-02-24 at 11:37 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > As a general principle, as a free software advocate, I approve of an > expansive definition of fair use and believe that far more uses of > copyrighted material should be fair use than are normally considered fair > use today.  Expansive

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
On February 27, 2023 12:45:38 AM UTC, "Roberto A. Foglietta" wrote: >On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 21:47, Russ Allbery wrote: >> >> "Roberto A. Foglietta" writes: >> >> > My proposal to apply the GPLv3 or AGPLv3 - not directly to an object >> > but - to a collection of objects using the database

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Roberto A. Foglietta
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 21:47, Russ Allbery wrote: > > "Roberto A. Foglietta" writes: > > > My proposal to apply the GPLv3 or AGPLv3 - not directly to an object > > but - to a collection of objects using the database protection, > > automatically also solves the problem of a blurry "fair use" >

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Roberto A. Foglietta
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 21:47, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I am not a lawyer, let alone a copyright lawyer, and have only an amateur > Internet understanding of the nature of compilation copyrights (and they > may well also vary by jurisdiction), but my understanding (possibly > incorrect) of the law

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Russ Allbery
"Roberto A. Foglietta" writes: > My proposal to apply the GPLv3 or AGPLv3 - not directly to an object > but - to a collection of objects using the database protection, > automatically also solves the problem of a blurry "fair use" > definition. However, to be more incisive about "fair use", it

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Roberto A. Foglietta
Hi all, in these two threads * https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2023/02/msg00017.html * https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2023/02/msg00022.html we had the chance to confront each other about the emerging A.I. mass adoption and about which licensing model would be useful to adopt

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Roberto A. Foglietta
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 09:09, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote: > ERRATA CORRIGE > I hope this helps to acknowledge and convince us - as the open-source > and software-libre community - about the great responsabilitiy that is > a burden on our shoulders. Such a responsibility cannot be delegated to >

Debian Maintainers Keyring changes

2023-02-26 Thread Debian FTP Masters
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Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-26 Thread Roberto A. Foglietta
On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 at 01:03, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote: > About this in the following I wish to add a link to a very interesting article that I found and which expresses a reasonable concern about the mass adoption of a potentially manipulative technology like A.I. can be. And probably, it