Re: Open Letter to Anthony Towns about the d-i mediation ...

2006-11-06 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:17:11AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > On 10830 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > Well, the problem is more complicated than you think. There are many > > > issues at > > > hand here, the first being that i have a right to have svn access,

Re: Open Letter to Anthony Towns about the d-i mediation ...

2006-11-06 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:01:14PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > On 10830 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > >> And thats the point you get wrong. No, you dont "have a right to have > > >> svn access". You have the right to fork d-i and run your own, but no > > >> right

Re: Open Letter to Anthony Towns about the d-i mediation ...

2006-11-06 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:53:40PM +0100, Joey Schulze wrote: > > You are free to use the infrastructure in the same way and start > > svenl-d-i as several people have pointed out already. To start this > > project is a *right* you have. To have commit a

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > So, after Andrew Suffield, after Jonathan/Ted Walter, it is my turn, because i Before everybody starts to believe this, Andrew Suffield has not been expulsed either. Regards, Joey -- Life is a lot easier when you have someone to share it with. -- Sean Perry --

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > Joey, if i came back in a year, at the minor difference between me and others, > it would be "he is backsliding" again, and another round of this mess. This entirely depends you your own behaviour. I hope you're doing well in the meantime and can come back relaxed. Regards,

Bug#419642: New List: debian-infrastructure

2007-04-17 Thread Joey Schulze
Package: lists.debian.org I would like to establish a mailing list for infrastructure and service announcements. Name: debian-infrastructure / debian-infrastructure-announce debian-services / debian-services-announce Rationale: There is currently no way to inform developers and users

Re: Optical disk cover

2007-04-19 Thread Joey Schulze
Philippe Cloutier wrote: > >Does anyone know of any graphic/web work available on the debian project? > > Definitely. Others already proposed several things, I think we also > don't have any optical disk cover for Debian 4... http://debian.semistable.com/cdcover.pl See http://lists.debian.org/d

Re: stable / backports (Re: When Debian 4.1 will arrive... will anyone care?)

2007-04-19 Thread Joey Schulze
Bart Martens wrote: > > the only 'advantage' to using 'stable+backports' over 'stable+some > > packages from unstable or testing' is that you don't have that nasty > > label 'unstable'.(...) > > IMO, if you need a 'stable' system with some newer packages, you're > > better off learning how apt's pi

Re: Some thoughts on the ARM build daemons

2007-05-08 Thread Joey Schulze
Lennert Buytenhek wrote: > (I also don't think that finding ARM silicon vendors willing to donate > some man-power to the Debian ARM port would be very hard, either.) That's always good and helpful for kernel and toolchain work. Having some of these people "around" and jump in should the need ari

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > Hi all, > > Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, > while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have > been removed from the alioth kernel team. Have you asked on debian-kernel what's going on? Regards, Joey -- L

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > > > Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, > > > while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have > > > been removed from the alioth kernel team. > > > > Have you asked on debian-kernel what's going on? > > Yes i have, nobody

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > > > If it would be done to anyone but me, you would cry in outrage, then why > > > not do so now ? Because there are too many hidden powers involved ? > > > > Thanks for knowing how I would react. Maybe I should ask you whenever > > I'm in a situation where I don't know how

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Joey Schulze
Andreas Barth wrote: > > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > 17:55:11 < svenl> waldi: do you know who removed me from the kernel > > > alioth team ? > > > 17:57:44 < waldi> nope > > > > > > No answer yet, and : > > > > > > 18:34:59 < sgran> I am not going to answer questions abo

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Joey Schulze
Bastian Blank wrote: > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:38:24AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > > I can understand the latter. However, maybe it was just a mistake and > > waldi didn't want to remove Sven but accidently removed one line too much > > or something? He'l

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > > After some more pressure on IRC, your commit access has been restored. > > It is not enough, i want the suspension revoked, since it was a stupid > decision, which has achieved nothing except worsen the situation, and > was taken contrary to the DAMs procedure, and in a shad

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven, stop it already! We've seen this several times already. You're not bringing up anything new. You're not helping yourself if you continue. Regards, Joey -- It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > > > I am now making this request to you as DPL, that you investigate who was > > > behind this action, and find out why it was done, and that it be > > > publicly addressed. > > > >Sven, first of all, please restrict your postings to debian-project, > > Whyever should i d

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > Partially restored, i used to be kernel team admin, but that is not the > point. If it's not the point, don't mention it so often. Thanks. > Ok, but this was only the 'goute qui a fait deborder le vase', the > bigger problem remains as a raw wound, for me, and for debian as

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:40:55PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > Ok, but this was only the 'goute qui a fait deborder le vase', the > > > bigger problem remains as a raw wound, for me, and for debian as a > >

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > May i ask you why there is no other solution ? What is it that makes it > a total heresy to even propose we try to solve it fairly and honourably ? Because what you would accept is not acceptable for Frans and what Frans accepts is very obviously not acceptable to you. Thus,

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > Is this so much to ask ? I ask this not of you, but of Debian, of you > Joey, of all other readers. Yes. > > Thus, live with it and enjoy life without trying the impossible. > > Why is it impossible ? This is what i don't understand. Debian has > > Because what you would ac

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:36:47AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > Sven, > > > > You may or may not have been mistreated but the volume of your > > arguments is disproportionate. There are millions of people > > who are being treated far worse and on an ongoing basis and I'd > >

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:21:08PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:36:47AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > > > Sven, > > > > > > > > You may or may not have been

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > Care to give me a chance ? You've had your chances, Sven. You're restarting with the old pattern, always. > > > you don't like what i have to say i should i have less right to the use > > > of the mailing lists than you or others do ? > > > > Thanks for putting differnt wo

Discussing off-topic topics

2007-06-07 Thread Joey Schulze
Discussing off-topic topics Hi, I've noticed that from time to time some Debian affiliated people try to discuss topics on (partially) Debian resources that are generally off-topic and lack a proper forum for discussions. Would a mailing list with a strong off-topic focus help here? I believe i

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Joey Schulze
Paddy, *what* do you want? I'm missing any essense in your mails. Your responses to other people, however, clearly contain a certain troll level and more accusations that don't lead anywhere. (the accusations of the oters as well, fwiw). Regards, Joey PS: Could you stop sending HTML ma

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Joey Schulze
Patrick Frank wrote: > On 6/8/07, Joey Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you want me to cry now like some of your friends, because you > reply to my private email on this list? :) I have no idea what you're smoking, but you should stop it. My mail contained only

Re: Social Contract ten years on July 5 -- celebration?

2007-06-27 Thread Joey Schulze
Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday 26 June 2007 22:54, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > The Debian Social Contract 1.0 was ratified on July 5, 1997. That's ten > > years ago, about ten days from now. Anybody else interested in > > celebrating this a bit? What would be an appropriate way? > > I kn

Re: message from Sven Luther

2007-06-29 Thread Joey Schulze
Robert Millan wrote: > Sven also told me that if nobody will forward it, he will "make it by the > slashdot way". Whatever that means, I don't personaly think being publicly > discredited by our mistakes is something we want as a community. It's also something we as a community cannot change anym

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-26 Thread Joey Schulze
Hi! Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:45:54AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:44:29PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > Please follow your own rules. Thanks. > > Besides, and with a sharp different tone, if Debian Maintainers are a > > reality now ..

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-26 Thread Joey Schulze
Joey Hess wrote: > Joey Schulze wrote: > > If this is a holdup, why has the offer of Bart Martens to help testing > > the service with a separate key been rejected? > > Bart suggested that *I* drop the current DMs from the keyring, and put > his key in it. Since as AJ n

Unidentified subject!

2007-10-28 Thread Joey Schulze
This is so rediculous. -- Of course, I didn't mean that, which is why I didn't say it. What I meant to say, I said. -- Thomas Bushnell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reg Blind

2008-03-30 Thread Joey Schulze
Kevin Mark wrote: > Hi Suzy, > I am forwarding your request to the Debian-user mailing list, as that > would be a better place to ask. The Debian-project list is for questions > about the Debian project and not for help with using Debian. A link to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could also be a good idea, sinc

Re: Updated Debian Developers Keyring

2008-04-19 Thread Joey Schulze
Anthony Towns wrote: > Not really an automated mail, but we can pretend. > > The following changes to the Debian keyring have been made: > > andete > Added key: 062A20ADA62FF34A0DBE6FCD2A75E4D1B59BD712 [..] > brlink > Added key: 36471231FCDCB7A7DBBA935D5B3229580F1D92DA [..] > micah >

Re: fakeroot_1.4.3.tar.gz

2008-05-16 Thread Joey Schulze
Samir Patel wrote: >Is there any was to get hold off this particular version of the fakeroot? Please use http://snapshot.debian.net/fakeroot Regards, Joey -- This is GNU/Linux Country. On a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot. Please always Cc to me when replying to me on th

Re: debian/copyright for files not part of the binary packages?

2008-07-20 Thread Joey Schulze
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > They could have filed a bug if they think that the copyright file should > be updated but rejecting the update is just wrong. There's nothing broken > in the package. It's always good to tell other people what is right and wrong. I'm sure telling ftpmasters that what they

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-16 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > Well, it would have helped if : > > 1) we didn't vote a GR worded in such a way as to fully discourage the > existing kernel team to work on the non-free firmware problems. [..] > But this not being the way which was chosen, what do you expect ? In > france we say "qui s

Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)

2008-09-16 Thread Joey Schulze
Filipus Klutiero wrote: > domain name hosting non-free. Richard Stallman wrote: > >> Thus, the debian.org site and the software in it should not refer to the >> existence of non-free.org in such a way as to suggest getting non-free >> software from there. >> >> I tried for years to convince Debian

Re: Mentions of non-free (Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free)

2008-09-17 Thread Joey Schulze
Filipus Klutiero wrote: >> >> > Translated to the current way things are done, this means that >> according > to Richard, the Debian website or Debian refer to the >> existence of the > non-free component in a way that suggests getting >> non-free software from > there. >> > >> > I'm very cur

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread Joey Schulze
David Paleino wrote: > > I was frightened by your message until I realized that it was not your > > message but one of Sven??? please don't forward messages that you don't > > endorse (in particular when it contains wrong claims). > > Ok, sorry for that :) > However, I still believe that censorshi

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-24 Thread Joey Schulze
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> Developer Status >> > > I start loving more this proposal. > > >> Debian is about developing a free operating system, but there's more >> in an operating system than just software and packages. If we want >> translators, docume

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-24 Thread Joey Schulze
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: >> To cite an extreme example, Ingo Juergensman doesn't do packaging >> nor anything of the above. Nevertheless, he's an active member of >> the Debian community for many years (even despite severe problems) >> by supporting the m68k port with hosts and maintenance. He

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-25 Thread Joey Schulze
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Do you think a Debian voter would not be interested > on other areas? Not to be an expert, but a very simple > tests could be useful, and not the test for usual > packers. If somebody is *interested* in something they will teach themselves. The Debian project does no

Re: Where are the mails to my debian.org address?

2008-12-13 Thread Joey Schulze
Oohara Yuuma wrote: > [please Cc: to me because I am not subscribed to this list] > > Can anyone tell me what is happening on my debian.org e-mail address > (ooh...@debian.org)? About a month ago most of the mails from that > address disappeared. Now the only mails I receive from it are those >

Re: FINAL call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-26 Thread Joey Schulze
Adeodato Simó wrote: > (Bcc secretary@ in case he doesn't follow -project and cares about this.) > > > Debian Project Secretary wrote: > > When sending email from role addresses, I think it's better if the real > name of the person is used, together with the role address itself, > rather than us

Re: Creating a public list for wanna-build team? Input needed.

2009-02-18 Thread Joey Schulze
Adeodato Simó wrote: > Hello, I'm sorry to use this list for this purpose, but I'm not sure > where else I could go for "interested parties to comment", since the set > of people potentially interested in this is not concentrated in some > other, less generic list. > > In #512780 (http://bugs.debi

Re: Introducing http://news.debian.net

2009-08-03 Thread Joey Schulze
Ana Guerrero wrote: > > Hi, > > I have setup http://news.debian.net/ where I intend to publish and link > information related to what is going on in the Debian project. > If you want to submit news you think it is interesting for developers and > users, you have several ways listed at: http://ne

Debian Booths (was: Debian money)

2009-09-13 Thread Joey Schulze
Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:04:42PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > * Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [2009-09-10 16:01]: > > > Steve McIntyre writes: > > > > 4 Marketing stuff: > > > >a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and > > > > expos. Might be usefu

Re: debian

2010-07-25 Thread Joey Schulze
Jimmi Nielsen wrote: > Hello. > > i have a small problems with my debian server. > alle files are permission 644, so i cant change anything on it. > > how can i change it back with root login. > > i have try but it say Permission denied Please ask your question on the user oriented mailing lis

Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-07-06 Thread Joey Schulze
Holger Levsen wrote: > as I've said several times already, the hardest part is finding people doing > whatever the best procedure for this is. > > The problem with that is that DebConf is quite a lot of work for the team for > 2-3 months before the conf, then the conference itself and then clea

Re: Authorizing minor expenses by DSA without prior DPL approval

2013-09-12 Thread Joey Schulze
Josh Berkus wrote: > On 09/12/2013 10:17 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 12/09/13 at 09:58 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > >> On 09/12/2013 04:46 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > >>> DSA does not need to wait for DPL approval to make such expenses. The > >>> DPL will always approve such expenses, provid

Re: [Utnubu-discuss] Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Joey Schulze
Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 15.12.2005, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Sven Luther: > > The process was to be manually though, the idea is to scan incoming mails to > > the BTS, which would notice an URL to an ubuntu patch, and auto-attach it > > (and > > complain loudly to the submitter if