Re: Voting on messages: a way to resolve the mailing list problems

2009-01-04 Thread Nick Phillips
On 22/12/2008, at 9:42 PM, MJ Ray wrote: George Danchev wrote: On Saturday 20 December 2008 21:33:27 MJ Ray wrote: So, people who remain on the debian mailing lists have a poor understanding of what should appear a good mailing list, What makes you think that "vocal minority" is larger tha

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-21 Thread Nick Phillips
On 21/08/2008, at 8:56 PM, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: My concept of the package changelog is to give a chronological account of the changes that happened to the package. Right... What is the problem with documenting which versions were actually present in the archive? That it conflicts wi

Re: A bit of history

2007-06-13 Thread Nick Phillips
On 13/06/2007, at 8:35 PM, Linas Žvirblis wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: I guess that depends on what you consider "joined". You might also consider your first posting to a Debian mailing list. Or possible, your first contribution (e.g., b

Re: When Debian 4.1 will arrive... will anyone care?

2007-04-20 Thread Nick Phillips
Craig Sanders wrote: > IMO, if you need a 'stable' system with some newer packages, you're > better off learning how apt's pinning stuff works than bothering with > backports. it's not hard. The big difference is that with backports, they will be built with stable libs etc. as far as possible --

Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware

2006-08-27 Thread Nick Phillips
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Indeed, all the references I have found tell me that firmware > is computer programs. > Interesting, as I note that *none* of those you quoted do so -- although some do say that it is "software" that is stored in less-volatile storage than RAM. Given the sca

Re: Branding for Debian derivatives -- "Debian Distilled"

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Phillips
Henning Makholm wrote: > >> Okay, so this is just my idea. Add grains of salt to taste, etc. >> >> The idea is to take the Debian "official use" logo [0] which we've >> never really made much use of, and declare it the logo for derivatives >> instead. Add the word "distilled" [1] underneath, and yo

Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project

2006-07-23 Thread Nick Phillips
On 24/07/2006, at 9:46 AM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: So not giving the SPI board oversight on how Debian conducts it's internal affairs is sending an unfortunate message? Perhaps I do think we should send such a message; and indeed, we should consider the creation of a Debian Foundation,

Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project

2006-07-23 Thread Nick Phillips
On 24/07/2006, at 8:41 AM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: A GR should wait - within reasonable time - until developers can have the information they need for a informed decision. The constitution specifies the time that the GR needs to be in discussion, and the period determined is a minimu

Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project

2006-07-21 Thread Nick Phillips
MJ Ray wrote: > > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> propose the following amendment to the Debian constitution. This had > >> been discussed at length last month, and suggestions and discussion > >> have died down. I would like to seek seconds for this proposal at > >> this time. > > I

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants/

2005-02-08 Thread Nick Phillips
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 05:37:15PM +0100, Tobias Toedter wrote: > There has been much discussion about the requirement of a link back to > www.d.o on the consultant's website. Just to make this absolutely clear: No > consultant will be required to *operate* a website and to link back to > Debia

Re: New Front Desk members

2005-01-30 Thread Nick Phillips
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 12:11:36AM +, MJR wrote: > I'm tired of this crusade against the English from our resident > sexists, grounded only in the Sapir-Whorf *hypothesis*. > > If you would like some example genders switched to make a bit > more of a mix, or avoided entirely, then fine, but p

Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-26 Thread Nick Phillips
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 09:17:34PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Requiring that distributors of a piece of software refrain from making > > accusations of patent infringement regarding the software itself is > > consistent with the goal of upholding the freedoms of users over that > > software.

Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-25 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 02:57:21AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Start with something uncontroversial and then build to: > > [...] > > > In the light of the threat that software patents pose to Free > > > Software, we believe that it is likewise acceptable for software > > > licenses to plac

Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-23 Thread Nick Phillips
On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 12:32:29AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think that's a discussion that belongs on -project. Probably :-) > > So. The proposition to discuss would appear to be along the lines of: > > > Debian accepts that it may in certain circumstances be desirable > > (or a

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants/

2005-01-20 Thread Nick Phillips
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 01:02:51AM -0500, Todd Troxell wrote: > > Where in the Social Contract does it say anything about "seeking publicity" > > or "winning over new users"? If and when those aims get in the way of > > helping our users and/or free software (as they would here), then they > > are

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants/

2005-01-19 Thread Nick Phillips
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 05:24:25PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 02:41:06PM +0100, Tobias Toedter wrote: > > 3. Website > >    If an URL is provided, the consultant must mention their Debian-related > >    work on the website. The Debian distribution must be mentioned > >    ex