Re: academic alliances or the like

2016-04-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2016-04-10, Morten Bo Nielsen wrote: > My biggest issue is related to how to find industry partners. Debian > doesn't keep a record of it and keeping track of persons/companies > doing downloads/updates is not something we want, so we will have do > it differently. > I don't have good ideas r

Re: Debian Listing

2016-08-02 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2016-08-02, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Zlatan Todoric wrote: > >> Free as in the source code is available to modify, share etc? Otherwise >> it will not enter Debian (the main archive). > > The mail you quoted was pretty clearly spam. Please don't respond to > spam and i

Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports

2019-06-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2019-06-10, Sam Hartman wrote: > Unfortunately, I find that its reports are not very accessible at least > by default. > The issue I'm most running into is that the reports use internal > indentation within a line. That is, to draw an account tree ledger > indents the column containing the acc

Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports

2019-06-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2019-06-12, Sam Hartman wrote: > Well, in general, people are trying to share these reports in email, so > I'm not quite sure how that would work. I was just thinking of taking the ledger snippet and presenting it differently. Maybe I should see what I can do in a couple of hours during next

Re: something related to the soc-ctte

2007-01-27 Thread Sune Vuorela
Developer: Kevin Mark Date: 2007-01-27 Severity: Serious Dear suck-ctte! This developer proposes to register people in a way that is no way suitable for a project like debian. Please do something! /Sune - I am not a DD, so my opinions don't count -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-02-16 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-02-16, Anthony Towns wrote: > if so, have a list of suggested projects up, along with > recommendation on what students should expect if they get A list of projects I just thought of - I have no clue how much work there are in them - and wether they have

Re: Bits from the DPL: DSA and buildds and DAM, oh my!

2007-02-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-02-23, Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I understand they cannot communicate about _everything_. But a >> downtime like that _is_ worth communicating. If they don't understand > > You did notice that the DSA team is about to install

Re: Technical solutions to social problems

2007-02-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-02-23, Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> the other party steals the blanket during the night and leaves the other ^ >> one shivering. > > I know we are on the way to an off topic thread, but I'm curious: Why > is that a social problem? because of the

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-03-29, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you deny that rejection is an act of hate ? I do. Rejection is many things that in many cases is not hate. It might be dislikement, it might be lack of skills or just bad communication. None of these is what I would consider hate. /Sune

Re: Graphic Design Work

2007-04-18 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-04-18, James Herrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know of any graphic/web work available on the debian project? Try read the debian-desktop list archives for the last month or so - there has been some talking about artwork for the debian desktop. > > Once again im sorry if t

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-11-28, Bas Wijnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:49:38PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:23:30PM +, Michael Banck wrote: >> > Another thing we could do is alert sponsors about checking for lintian >> > overrides when they review a pac

Re: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads (NMUs)

2008-05-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-05-30, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Fri, May 30, 2008 at 09:45:57AM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit : >> >> Yes, communication is good. We have several media for it, the two most >> important ones being mailing lists and the BTS (IMO). This DEP proposes >> to use the BTS for

Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

2008-11-07 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment > on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and > traversing unstable/testing/stable? unstable: within a week after lenny release testing: probably a mon

Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

2008-11-08 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-11-08, Adeodato Sim?? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Sune Vuorela [Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:17:40 +]: > >> On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment >> >

Re: Yet another list statistics for debian-project

2009-01-18 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-01-17, Andreas Tille wrote: > kde > --- > Ups - is this project dying or has the list activity just moved > to an different mailing list??? The project is going fine. You are looking at the "user list", but KDE is so easy to use for everyone that user support mostly isn't

Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

2009-04-07 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-04-07, Frans Pop wrote: [microblogging on planet] > What do others think? I like the planet-kde approach to microblogging. It is in a seperate box on planet and not part of the main rss feed. /Sune > Cheers, >=46JP > > Some examples: > http://identi.ca/notice/3281464 > http://identi.ca

Re: Genericly-named debian.net domains for private use

2009-04-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-04-12, Daniel Baumann wrote: > for the first issue, given that: > > * there has not been any 'confusions' about it known to me > whetever some repository is on git.debian.org or git.debian.net, I have unconfused other developers a few times. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-06-23, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:30:53 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> For years, the DAM and NEW queues have been the major source of >> frustration in the Debian community. > > really? *the* major source of frustration? really? at least for me, NEW

Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-06-23, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:30:53AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> We should seek processes that scale. For example: > > This is true - but does not *at all* imply compromising on quality. full ack. I would actually prefer a way where we can also improve qu

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-28 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-07-29, Frans Pop wrote: > --nextPart2108813.qE7SciSrbv > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-15" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Wednesday 29 July 2009, Meike Reichle wrote: >> The Debian project has decided to adopt a new poli

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-07-29, Luk Claes wrote: > Who would you like to propose a release cycle to the project if not the > Release Team? What I have seen so far, both from the press announcement and from the video, it is not a proposal. it is a decision. > > To be clear the Release Team cannot just decide wha

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-07-29, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> I'm considering how we can get this decision undone. Anyone up for >> helping with that? > > I object, but feel free to if you really must. > As I already said the Release Team *does* have the power to take such > decisions. If you go on with a GR you effect

Re: Debian money

2009-09-13 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre wrote: > 1 New hardware / equipment > >a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along > with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or > shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the individual > requests here lo

Re: version numbering question

2009-11-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-11-10, Sam Ward wrote: > --0016e64b98eaed04bc047807b3b8 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The kdebase package currently is listed as 5:55. Is this an internal Debian > reference and how could I determine which version of the kdebase it > reflects? the kdebase binary packa

Re: let's add news.debian.net to planet.d.o (!?)

2009-12-07 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-12-07, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I have been recently wondering [2] why that feed is not on Planet. Ana > would be glad to be there, but she has the impression that Planet policy > forbids non-individual feds to be there. I've been checking the current > guidelines which in fact _implici

Re: buildd/porter/maintainer roles again

2010-07-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-07-12, Clint Adams wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:24:19PM +0300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> I think it should be. Or the porters should monitor the builds on their >> architecture to be able to detect FTBFS and act on them, without the >> maintainer having to manually ping them. > > If

Re: buildd/porter/maintainer roles again

2010-07-13 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-07-12, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Or they should work closely with the porters to notify them about build logs > which smell like issues porters should look into. I would consider that 'caring for the port'. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: DEP-5 meta: New co-driver; current issues

2010-08-13 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-08-12, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > * Various things are easier if debian/copyright can be parsed and > interpreted by software, rather than being free-form text. For > example, answering questions like "what stuff is GPLv2 only, > and therefore incompatible with GPLv3?". This is quite u

Re: DEP-5 meta: New co-driver; current issues

2010-08-13 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-08-13, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On pe, 2010-08-13 at 09:08 +1000, Craig Small wrote: >> I tried to use it once on one program and just ditched it. It only made >> it more difficult for me and for anyone who read it. > > That would indicate there is a bug in the DEP-5 spec. It is, in my very

Re: DEP-5 meta: New co-driver; current issues

2010-08-13 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-08-13, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Here's a quick-and-dirty conversion to DEP-5, which took about an hour > to do, using regular expression search&replace, the vi "." command, plus > manual editing: I'm not talking about doing conversion. I'm talking about building from scratch. I get quite

Re: commercial spam on planet

2010-11-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-11-10, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Ana Guerrero wrote: > >> I am annoyed by the flattr advertisement and I stayed away from the thread >> becuase my opinion was already represented, not point in repeating them. >> If you are going do a 'poll' based on the people participating, add >> 1 to

Re: commercial spam on planet

2010-11-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-11-10, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm not particularly happy with the 'flattr this' buttons either. My > main problem is that I find quite difficult to avoid interpreting them > as DMUP violations, specifically about DMUP point "don't use Debian > Facilities for private financial gain".

Re: commercial spam on planet

2010-11-11 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-11-11, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > at the bottom of my posts, rather the opportunity to see whether > people liked getting status updates about the packages I maintain, or > stuff I do in general.) it is because I like reading what people do in and outside debian that I read planet. /Sune

Re: No general political content on Planet

2010-11-11 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-11-11, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Yes, please subscribe me to that group. For me, the planet is a window > to the lives of the people that form up this social group. We share a > technical affinity, so we tend to write technical topics, but we write > about our political views - As much as we wr

Re: Greaat disappointment

2011-10-01 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2011-10-01, Steffen Möller wrote: >>> My nick was Ti-chan. You can research if you please. >>> I did nothing, just kindly asked for help regarding partitioning. >> [...] >> >> And then, apparently, you started insulting people. > > I can well imagine how one has made the investment to install

Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

2012-10-31 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-10-30, Russ Allbery wrote: > Would people like me to push my entire blog to Planet Debian, including > all my book reviews and software release announcements? Yes please. show me that there is more of Russ. I'm pushing my 'english' tag to planet (as opposed to my 'danish' tag, not used f

Re: LaMont Jones, WTH are you doing?

2013-02-06 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-02-06, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > ??? As, apparently (he???s done it for bind9 and util-linux too) normal > for LaMont, he???s > ??? uploading (hand-built¹) binaries for two architectures I've uploaded several architectures at once in the past on multiple occasions. http://www.google.co

Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women

2013-04-02 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-03-26, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > [ mail followup to: -women, please continue discussion there ] No. This is a project discussion. Not a women discussion. > TL;DR: we've been invited to participate into GNOME Outreach Program for > Women and I'd like to accept the invitation. To maximiz

Re: Dealing with ITS abuse (Re: [all candidates] Removing or limiting DD rights?)

2013-04-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-06, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > It's not a /good/ way in absolute terms, but it's pretty much the only > way for now, so I guess it's currently the best way (see > https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/11/msg00030.html ). My experience with contacting owner@bugs, listmaster, wik

Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women

2013-04-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-28, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > almost as much as the OPW stipend, and maybe to more. So one can read this as > GSoC funding Debian's experimental participation in OPW for this round. I really think that reading it that way is trying to cover things up. The money Debian receives from Googl

Re: Buying hardware with Debian money

2013-10-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-10-20, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > A. Memory expansion cards for m68k buildds (expected cost: 500 EUR) > > B. Powerful machine for d-i development (expected cost: 1.5k-2k EUR?) > > C. Laptop for developer (expected cost: 1k-1.5k EUR?) As such, I think all of it sounds reasonable. Developer t

Re: Proposed MBF - mentions of the word "Ubuntu"

2013-11-08 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-11-08, Ian Jackson wrote: > The flipside is that when we receive lawyer letters over trademarks, > where the trademark holder is preventing us from doing something we > consider essential for software freedom, we rename things. > > Naturally we should apply that same principle for the bene

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-11-26, Norbert Preining wrote: > What does > "poor behaviour" > mean? Last time i felt like speaking up against poor behaviour in debian was when this was posted: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/05/msg01138.html /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...

Re: Wheezy 7.3 KDE

2014-01-28 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-01-28, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > irc://irc.oftc.net/debian (there are #debian networks also on other=20 > networks, you didn't mention which one did you try). He has tried and gotten answers - in several irc channels. Unfortunately he chose to not accept the given answers. /Sune ps.: The

Re: systemd bad press? score card?

2014-02-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-02-10, Daniel Pocock wrote: > http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/63079-debian-init-system-vote-has-become-a-farce > > finishes off with the line "And users are still expected to take this > lot seriously." > > Not really objective journalism It is unfortunately embarras

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-24 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-02-24, Paul Wise wrote: > That would be nice, the IRC channels are currently a big back-channel > that hides a bunch of useful information from the wider public. Much of irc are semiprivate chatter and socializing and not really something that should be available to the wider public. It

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-25 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-02-24, Ian Jackson wrote: > I don't think this is realistic for channels which anyone in the world > can join. There are no doubt many people who have private logs and > there would be nothing stopping anyone making such a log public > without our consent. This is true for any electronic

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-27 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-02-27, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > Well, a quick grep on the result shows that of those 652 uploads done > using 1024b keys, only half of them were made since the beginning of > 2013. 327 have been done *before* 2013. I guess those can't really be I'm unsure when I did my last upload, but

Re: Poll: how should Debian derivatives identify their packages?

2006-01-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2006-01-26, Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The poll can only be submitted by DD's, and results will be non-anonymous and > published immediately. Shouldn't non-DD-packagers be heard too ? But I hope for 2 or 5. -- Sune - vice president of packaging kommando -- To UNSU