Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-discuss-discuss-discuss-and-keep-discussing] ...

2012-12-05 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:38:42AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: If other people find that it *had almost nothing to do* with DebConf, please tell us. As currently planned, Debconf 13 has nothing to do with a conference you would ask sponsorship to a fortune 500 company for. You mean

Re: [Debconf-discuss-discuss-discuss-and-keep-discussing] ...

2012-12-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 05 décembre 2012 à 08:50 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit : Sure it is. Josselin was refering to outsiders as people who neither read the brochure nor have visited the location and neither were involved deeply in the organisation of a DebConf (so people as himself). Thanks for

Re: [Debconf-discuss-discuss-discuss-and-keep-discussing] ...

2012-12-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
TL;DR ⇒ I'm sick of this discussion. I'm calling the DebConf chairs to vote _NOW_ to sign or repeal the contract. I'm voting to sign. (Do we need consensus between the three? Can we vote?) I will probably do some netiquette breaches in this post... So, apologies to all, but I

Re: [Debconf-discuss-discuss-discuss-and-keep-discussing] ...

2012-12-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 13:38 -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit : People, (most of) the Swiss team is pissed with the lack of trust and lack of respect we have been showing for months already, and that now some very vocal outsiders (i.e. Debian people who are not involved in this year's DebConf

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-discuss-discuss-discuss-and-keep-discussing] ...

2012-12-04 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 12/04/2012 10:36 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 13:38 -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit : People, (most of) the Swiss team is pissed with the lack of trust and lack of respect we have been showing for months already, and that now some very vocal outsiders (i.e. Debian

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-discuss-discuss-discuss-and-keep-discussing] ...

2012-12-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 05 décembre 2012 à 08:27 +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi a écrit : For a lot of people, your writing seems out of context. The sponsorship brochure is linked in: http://debconf13.debconf.org/helpus.xhtml If other people find that it *had almost nothing to do* with DebConf, please

Re: [Debconf-discuss-discuss-discuss-and-keep-discussing] ...

2012-12-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Dear Giacomo, On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:27:18AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: On 12/04/2012 10:36 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Is the “outsiders” word also meaning to describe people who were asked for sponsorship and discovered later that the brochure they were sent had almost