Beyond Package Pools (Was: Re: A "progressive" distribution)

2000-03-16 Thread Eray Ozkural
"J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 14:12:49 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > > try this hypothetical release method out: > > > > there are two trees. let's call them devel and production. debian saavy > > folks (maintainers) run devel. new packages are uploaded to devel where > >

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-16 Thread Jacob Kuntz
J.H.M. Dassen Ray" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 14:12:49 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > > try this hypothetical release method out: > > > > there are two trees. let's call them devel and production. debian saavy > > folks (maintainers) run devel. new packages are uploaded to d

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 11:02:31AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > ??? - packages auto moved to here after basic criteria met (e.g. > in unstable for 2 weeks with no bug reports). can't remember > what this stage was to be called. i feel a need to write some more about

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:35:16PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 15:06:57 -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > > It wouldn't help with out and out buggy programs but at least it > > would catch dependency problems. > > It would catch problems with the dependencies a package

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-15 Thread Lalo Martins
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:56:05PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > > > > the production branch should always work. > > But it won't. This approach ignores the fact that "stability" is a property > of a release as a whole (the set of packages and their interdependencies, > ISOs, boot floppies

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-15 Thread Jacob Kuntz
i thought i send a reply to this but it doesn't seem to have made it to the list. i'll try to remember what i typed. J.H.M. Dassen Ray" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 14:12:49 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > > try this hypothetical release method out: > > > > there are two trees

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-15 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 15:22:04 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > the main idea here is that the release cycle would be automated, and > packages would be gradutated from one tree to the next. perhaps an > intermediate tree needs to be included. i believe this idea has promise, I believe it has some pr

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-15 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 15:06:57 -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > A possibly naive question: apt-get will refuse to install packages if > their dependencies aren't met. Why can't dinstall do the same? It could do so. > It wouldn't help with out and out buggy programs but at least it would > catc

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-15 Thread Lalo Martins
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:06:57PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > > > But it won't. This approach ignores the fact that "stability" is a property > > of a release as a whole (the set of packages and their interdependencies, > > ISOs, boot floppies

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-15 Thread Jacob Kuntz
J.H.M. Dassen Ray" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 14:12:49 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > > > > the production branch should always work. > i was stating goals, not fact. > But it won't. This approach ignores the fact that "stability" is a property > of a release as a whole (

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-15 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > But it won't. This approach ignores the fact that "stability" is a property > of a release as a whole (the set of packages and their interdependencies, > ISOs, boot floppies and the upgrade path from the previous release) rather > than the sum of t

Re: A "progressive" distribution

2000-03-15 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 14:12:49 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > try this hypothetical release method out: > > there are two trees. let's call them devel and production. debian saavy > folks (maintainers) run devel. new packages are uploaded to devel where > they are tested extensivly. when a package