Re: About expulsion requests

2006-04-15 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 06:49:18PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: That would mean that if somebody _has_ done something that merits expulsion (knowingly uploading packages with trojaned backdoors in them is the clearest example that comes to mind) can

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-04-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 06:49:18PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] So far as I can tell, the decision to make the first message public or semi-public has been a decision taken by the people who chose to start it, not by the process, and changing the

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-04-11 Thread MJ Ray
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe we can convince more people to ignore such public statements unless the expulsion process *actually* starts (which so far as I can tell has yet to ever happen). I think there have been at least two expulsion processes started, but both have ended at step 2

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-04-11 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Seg, 2006-04-10 às 21:30 +0200, Sven Luther escreveu: On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:51:19PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: I know that having codified expulsion procedures is tempting to use them, and I do think that they are a good thing to have. But please consider one thing when you think

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-04-11 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] So far as I can tell, the decision to make the first message public or semi-public has been a decision taken by the people who chose to start it, not by the process, and changing the process isn't going to address that problem (unless, I suppose, there's

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-04-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lun 10 Avril 2006 21:30, Sven Luther a écrit : On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:51:19PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: Dear developers, I know that having codified expulsion procedures is tempting to use them, and I do think that they are a good thing to have. But please consider one thing

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-20 Thread MJ Ray
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 16 Mar 2006, MJ Ray spake thusly: I disagree. The candidate only seems to get that choice after there are enough people gathered against them. When a totally crap request collapses without getting Q supporters, the request and supporters details stay

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-19 Thread Harald Geyer
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the idea is that the person facing expulsion procedures may not want future employers to be able to google about the episode. Given that the process does fail, it would simplify matters for the individual if they did not have to try to

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-19 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 13:32 +0100, Harald Geyer wrote: I don't want future employers to be able to google about my bugs. http://bugs.debian.org/robots.txt Thijs :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.19.1416 +0100]: I don't want future employers to be able to google about my bugs. http://bugs.debian.org/robots.txt Mh. Our bug database is also a source of information... why not index it? -- Please do not send copies of list mail

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 19 March 2006 14:39, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.19.1416 +0100]: I don't want future employers to be able to google about my bugs. http://bugs.debian.org/robots.txt Mh. Our bug database is also a source of information... why

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.03.19.1457 +0100]: It can be searched using google groups. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/. So a future employee can google bugs. It's probably only a question of time until Google integrates groups with the main web search. -- Please do not send

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 16 Mar 2006, MJ Ray spake thusly: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 16 Mar 2006, Christoph Berg stated: I for myself would very much prefer the rumors, and maybe even publically spreading (leaking?) the word on irc than to deliver the expulsion request directly to every lurking

About expulsion requests

2006-03-16 Thread Christoph Berg
Dear developers, I know that having codified expulsion procedures is tempting to use them, and I do think that they are a good thing to have. But please consider one thing when you think about invoking them: [1] Please use debian-private. [3] The reason is simply that expulsion is not a

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-16 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2006-03-16 kello 15:51 +0100, Christoph Berg kirjoitti: I know that having codified expulsion procedures is tempting to use them, and I do think that they are a good thing to have. But please consider one thing when you think about invoking them: [1] Please use debian-private. [3] I

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-16 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Lars Wirzenius 2006-03-16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I disagree. Posting things to -private does not really keep them secret or confidential, but it does generate a lot of rumors. Rumors are usually worse than the real thing. Therefore, in my honest opinion, it's better to keep things in the open,

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 16 Mar 2006, Christoph Berg stated: Re: Lars Wirzenius 2006-03-16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I disagree. Posting things to -private does not really keep them secret or confidential, but it does generate a lot of rumors. Rumors are usually worse than the real thing. Therefore, in my honest

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 16 Mar 2006, Christoph Berg stated: I for myself would very much prefer the rumors, and maybe even publically spreading (leaking?) the word on irc than to deliver the expulsion request directly to every lurking slashdot/heise/whatever writer on earth.