On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 3:12 PM Don Armstrong wrote:
> I can't recall a case of listmaster@ actually enforcing the prohibition
> of profanity, and I'm unaware of anyone actually using packet radio for
> receiving listmail anymore. [If they are, I really hope it's encrypted.]
Encryption is
On Sun, 11 Apr 2021, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I think the blanket prohibition of profanity in the list code of
> conduct is outdated and harmful.
That's (as it states) a historical holdover: "some people receive the
lists via packet radio, where swearing is illegal."
I can't recall a case of
On Sun, 2021-04-11 at 12:45 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> That seems to be a good idea. I can't say I'll be at the next Debconf, life
> seems to be currently against it. But never say never :-)
Debconf21 will be online. No idea if such a training can happen online, but
if so you might be
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:14:40PM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote:
> Preface: Some people may consider it petty to care about this. I am not
> trying to be petty. I honestly feel sad and hurt every time I see this
> language on these lists. The language over the last few weeks has me
> feeling sick
Preface: Some people may consider it petty to care about this. I am not
trying to be petty. I honestly feel sad and hurt every time I see this
language on these lists. The language over the last few weeks has me
feeling sick inside. I'll admit that I'm likely in a small minority here,
but I do
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:13:06PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Dear Tomas, dear Debian community,
[...]
> I remember that at the recent KDE Academy meetups, I think the last two,
> there has been some workshop about non-violent communication.
>
> Maybe it would be an idea to propose
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 06:08:23AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
[...]
> But I think a blanket prohibition would be harmful:
Yes, I think mutilating language could also miss the mark. That
doesn't mean that I think language doesn't matter at all (I think
it does, very much!), and sometimes marking
Dear Tomas, dear Debian community,
to...@tuxteam.de - 11.04.21, 11:46:02 CEST:
> So in the end, I think the only real way is to raise awareness, with
> the goal tha /we all/ try to help keeing a friendly tone.
>
> It's a fine line to walk, between intervening (good) and vigilante
> (perhaps too
> "Eldon" == Eldon Koyle writes:
Eldon> Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
Eldon> I think I did a bad job of explaining. I'm talking about
Eldon> English words that universally accepted as swearing. I have
Eldon> not seen this class of words used constructively in lists,
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:56:04AM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote:
[...]
> Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
>
> I think I did a bad job of explaining. I'm talking about English words that
> universally accepted as swearing. I have not seen this class of words used
> constructively in lists, and
On Du, 11 apr 21, 00:56:04, Eldon Koyle wrote:
>
> I feel these words always contribute to a toxic environment, however they
> are being used intentionally by people I respect who hold a lot of influence
> in this group, in open defiance of the accepted rules. Using a small shell
> script (or
On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 1:52 AM wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 06:22:57PM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote:
> > I have noticed a pattern on Debian lists where we see:
>
> [...]
>
> > I would like to propose that we shorten this cycle by simply adding a rule
> > to bounce messages to public lists at
Eldon Koyle wrote:
I have noticed a pattern on Debian lists where we see:
1) a polarizing issue is brought up on the list
1a) (optional) there is some discussion with a few interesting points
2) people start arguing (useful debate has ended)
3) people start using offensive
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 06:22:57PM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote:
> I have noticed a pattern on Debian lists where we see:
[...]
> I would like to propose that we shorten this cycle by simply adding a rule
> to bounce messages to public lists at #3 [...]
The problem with this is... who is going to
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 06:22:57PM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote:
> I have noticed a pattern on Debian lists where we see:
>
> 1) a polarizing issue is brought up on the list
>
> 1a) (optional) there is some discussion with a few interesting points
>
> 2) people start arguing (useful debate
I have noticed a pattern on Debian lists where we see:
1) a polarizing issue is brought up on the list
1a) (optional) there is some discussion with a few interesting points
2) people start arguing (useful debate has ended)
3) people start using offensive language somehow expecting it
16 matches
Mail list logo
