This point makes an awful lot of sense. Is it actually against an official
policy to consider (not accept, mind you, since it was not actually accepted)
an anonymous donation with strings attached? While it may seem that certain
things are common sense we really cannot hold people to unstated
Hi,
On Montag, 3. Dezember 2012, Ian Jackson wrote:
The anonymous donations we got offered were rejected (by us)
Why do you use scare quotes ?
for two reasons: a.) because they are not anonymous to me and b.) because I'm
not as fluent in english writing as others.
I'm sorry to keep making
Moray Allan writes (Re: Anonymous donation to Debconf 13):
Since your questions remain unanswered, I just want to say as one of
the DebConf Chairs that I think the questions are valid, but I
personally don't know any details about this that would help clear them
up.
Thanks very much
Holger Levsen writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf
13):
On Montag, 3. Dezember 2012, Ian Jackson wrote:
I'm sorry to keep making trouble, but strings-attached offers of
substantial amounts of money from anonymous donors are a serious
matter. Even if the decision
Jose Luis Rivas writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf
13):
I really thought people working on a project like Debian would understand
the meaning of the anonymous word. Then we blame government and
politicians.
I'm sorry, I don't follow your point. When politicians
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
According to Moray this proposed strings-attached donation was used as
an argument by some members of the Debconf team in favour of making the
decision favoured by the donor. That is wholly unacceptable. It
amounts exactly to the donors
On 04/12/12 17:10, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
According to Moray this proposed strings-attached donation was used as
an argument by some members of the Debconf team in favour of making the
decision favoured by the donor. That is wholly
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes:
a) Holger, a DebConf chair, was concerned about Le Camp's budget on 25
October (referring to it as GourmetConf) and unwilling to support it
http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20121025.200948.bca7a335.en.html
100k for food is just insane. We are
On 04/12/12 18:02, Russ Allbery wrote:
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes:
a) Holger, a DebConf chair, was concerned about Le Camp's budget on 25
October (referring to it as GourmetConf) and unwilling to support it
Russ Allbery writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf
13):
The part that I'm missing here is what you felt should have been done
differently.
This is a reasonable question.
Let's assume that Debian has no control over the offering of the donation
(or loan) in the first
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 06:21:56PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
Russ Allbery writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf
13):
The part that I'm missing here is what you felt should have been done
differently.
This is a reasonable question.
Let's assume that Debian has
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
Russ Allbery writes:
That seems to be exactly what happened.
No. My reading of Moray's message is that some members of the Debconf
teams used the existence of the donation as an argument in favour of
selecting Le Camp as the site.
At
Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 15:02 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
If these people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh-Morpork_Assassins%27_Guild
would use Debian it is perfectl in line with our social contract.
Thus I can't see a reason why they should not sponsor DebConf.
There’s a huge
Russ Allbery dijo [Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 10:42:47AM -0800]:
(... big snip ...)
What remedy or action are you looking for here? I don't think breaking
the anonymity of a donation that never happened really makes sense. Are
you looking for site selection to be re-opened? Further reassurance
Holger Levsen writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf
13):
The anonymous donations we got offered were rejected (by us)
Why do you use scare quotes ?
On Samstag, 1. Dezember 2012, Holger Levsen wrote:
http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message
Le dimanche 02 décembre 2012 à 18:31 +0100, Philipp Hug a écrit :
AFAIK there was an offer of a huge anonymous donation, which at the end
seemed more a loan, and IIRC to speed up the process and not let discuss
about lack of money. I don't know the source and I don't know if there was
Le dimanche 02 décembre 2012 à 20:22 +0100, Holger Levsen a écrit :
DebConf13 will be held in Le Camp, Vaumarcus, Switzerland. The DebConf chairs
atm are preparing a message explaining why we (still ;) think this is a good
idea.
If you think DebConf is a total desaster and should be done
On 03/12/12 20:01, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le dimanche 02 décembre 2012 à 18:31 +0100, Philipp Hug a écrit :
AFAIK there was an offer of a huge anonymous donation, which at the end
seemed more a loan, and IIRC to speed up the process and not let discuss
about lack of money. I don't know the
On 2012-11-30 18:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
apparently some anonymous donors proposed to give or loan
Debconf 13 CHF40K (~Eur33K).
Can the Debconf global team, and/or the DC13 local team, please
answer
the following questions ?
Since your questions remain unanswered, I just want to say as one
Ian Jackson writes (Anonymous donation to Debconf 13):
I have heard some disturbing rumours regarding Debconf13, site choice
and funding. It seems to be difficult to find clear facts and of
course I don't want to be spreading unverified rumours.
I have had private emails from various people
On 12/02/2012 04:02 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
Ian Jackson writes (Anonymous donation to Debconf 13):
I have heard some disturbing rumours regarding Debconf13, site choice
and funding. It seems to be difficult to find clear facts and of
course I don't want to be spreading unverified rumours.
I
On 02/12/12 16:23, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
On 12/02/2012 04:02 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
Ian Jackson writes (Anonymous donation to Debconf 13):
I have heard some disturbing rumours regarding Debconf13, site choice
and funding. It seems to be difficult to find clear facts and of
course I
Hi,
AFAIK there was an offer of a huge anonymous donation, which at the end
seemed more a loan, and IIRC to speed up the process and not let discuss
about lack of money. I don't know the source and I don't know if there was
string attached.
Anyway that offer endured only few days because
On 02/12/12 18:31, Philipp Hug wrote:
Hi,
AFAIK there was an offer of a huge anonymous donation, which at the end
seemed more a loan, and IIRC to speed up the process and not let discuss
about lack of money. I don't know the source and I don't know if there was
string attached.
Anyway
Hi Daniel,
Can you just confirm: who proposed those conditions? Did this come from
somebody who was involved in the decision making (e.g. a committee
member or a negotiator)?
Or was the offer and the conditions from some third party outside the
debconf team?
If you want to know more
Hi,
I somewhat wonder why I have to write this mail. As I already wrote the mail
quoted below (which was also just repeating stuff said elsewhere)...
The anonymous donations we got offered were rejected (by us) on October 28th
(or 29th, not 101% sure about the exact date), I'm pretty sure
On 01/12/12 01:32, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Freitag, 30. November 2012, David Prévot wrote:
I fail to understand, if you really “don't want to be spreading
unverified rumours”, why are you posting this kind of questions to two
other wider mailing lists?
[...]
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 02:47:13PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
On 01/12/12 01:32, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Freitag, 30. November 2012, David Prévot wrote:
I fail to understand, if you really “don't want to be spreading
unverified rumours”, why are you posting this kind of questions
I have heard some disturbing rumours regarding Debconf13, site choice
and funding. It seems to be difficult to find clear facts and of
course I don't want to be spreading unverified rumours.
What I have found out from public sources, for example this message
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Hi,
Le 30/11/2012 14:44, Ian Jackson a écrit :
I have heard some disturbing rumours regarding Debconf13, site choice
and funding. It seems to be difficult to find clear facts and of
course I don't want to be spreading unverified rumours.
I
Hi,
On Freitag, 30. November 2012, David Prévot wrote:
I fail to understand, if you really “don't want to be spreading
unverified rumours”, why are you posting this kind of questions to two
other wider mailing lists?
[...]
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