The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:
I find that interesting.
I recall being told that, while it is technically possible to compile
and use GNOME without systemd - specifically, without libpam-systemd and
its backend infrastructure - doing so now loses
Hi,
Miles Fidelman:
Personally, I think Ian's statement is spot on. [...]
The stream of negative reactions is even
more revealing of the state to which the community has devolved.
Ah. In other words, basically, denying that a conspiracy is going on is in
itself a confirmation of the
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:01:39AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:
I find that interesting.
I recall being told that, while it is technically possible to compile
and use GNOME without systemd - specifically, without
Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi,
Miles Fidelman:
Personally, I think Ian's statement is spot on. [...]
The stream of negative reactions is even
more revealing of the state to which the community has devolved.
Ah. In other words, basically, denying that a conspiracy is going on is in
itself a
Hi,
Miles Fidelman:
arrogance, a couple of developers with an agenda and salaries behind them,
I fail to see what's so evil about getting paid for developing free
software.
And: OF COURSE they have an agenda. Getting systemd deployed as widely as
possible means less work for everbody,
Russ Allbery writes (Re: Being part of a community and behaving):
We waited two years, during which positions hardened, people got angrier
and angrier, and there were increasing demands to force the issue.
Serious question: how much longer were we realistically going to wait with
zero sign
Hi Ian,
On Donnerstag, 13. November 2014, Ian Jackson wrote:
The correct reaction to people not adopting your software is to make
your software better, not to conduct an aggressive marketing campaign
aimed at persuading upstreams to built it in as a dependency, nor to
overrun distro mailing
Quoting Ian Jackson (2014-11-13 17:53:30)
Russ Allbery writes (Re: Being part of a community and behaving):
We waited two years, during which positions hardened, people got angrier
and angrier, and there were increasing demands to force the issue.
Serious question: how much longer were we
Simon Chopin writes (Re: Being part of a community and behaving):
Could you please keep this whole mess on the mailing lists where it
came from? I (and I believe others) have unsubscribed from -devel and
-vote because we were fed up with the endless debate around the whole
systemd issue
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
Russ Allbery writes (Re: Being part of a community and behaving):
We waited two years, during which positions hardened, people got angrier
and angrier, and there were increasing demands to force the issue.
Serious question: how much longer
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 04:53:30PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
The correct reaction to people not adopting your software is to make
your software better, not to conduct an aggressive marketing campaign
aimed at persuading upstreams to built it in as a dependency, nor to
overrun distro mailing
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
Russ Allbery writes (Re: Being part of a community and behaving):
We waited two years, during which positions hardened, people got
angrier and angrier, and there were increasing demands to force the
issue. Serious question: how much longer
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 05:32:34PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
Could you please keep this whole mess on the mailing lists where it
came from? I (and I believe others) have unsubscribed from -devel and
-vote because we were fed up with the endless debate around the whole
systemd issue. Please
On 11/13/2014 at 12:29 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 04:53:30PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
The correct reaction to people not adopting your software is to
make your software better, not to conduct an aggressive marketing
campaign aimed at persuading upstreams to built it in
Ian Jackson dijo [Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 04:53:30PM +]:
The correct reaction to people not adopting your software is to make
your software better, not to conduct an aggressive marketing campaign
aimed at persuading upstreams to built it in as a dependency, nor to
overrun distro mailing lists
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Ian Jackson dijo [Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 04:53:30PM +]:
The correct reaction to people not adopting your software is to make
your software better, not to conduct an aggressive marketing campaign
aimed at persuading upstreams to built it in as a dependency, nor to
overrun
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