Re: Constant revenue source (was: Google ads on debian.org)

2004-12-16 Thread Stephen Frost
* Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Currently: > > "We would like this to happen and can make it happen by donating hardware" > > Your proposed scenario: > > "We would like this to happen, and if we don't donate any hardware > then it will happen anyway because they'll just buy the ki

Re: Constant revenue source (was: Google ads on debian.org)

2004-12-16 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 01:46:20PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: > > Debian is sustainable precisely because it operates without money. If > > we fall into the trap of just throwing money at problems then it will > > rapidly become the only way to solve any problem (how can we ask for > > hardware do

Re: Constant revenue source

2004-12-16 Thread Stephen Frost
* Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Stephen Frost wrote: > > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:25:40 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > said: > > > > Simple, the DPL selects them. We elected him, and that indicates > > > > that we tr

Re: Constant revenue source

2004-12-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Stephen Frost wrote: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:25:40 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Simple, the DPL selects them. We elected him, and that indicates > > > that we trust his decisions on such matters as how to spend Debian > >

Re: Constant revenue source

2004-12-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:25:40 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Simple, the DPL selects them. We elected him, and that indicates > > > that we trust his decisions on such matters as ho

Re: Constant revenue source

2004-12-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:25:40 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Simple, the DPL selects them. We elected him, and that indicates > > that we trust his decisions on such matters as how to spend Debian > > funds in the best interest of

Re: Constant revenue source

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:25:40 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:33:14 -0500, Stephen Frost >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > * Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > Well, sure, but it's something intel

Re: Constant revenue source (was: Google ads on debian.org)

2004-12-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 04:33:14PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: > > And I disagree, and these are only a few things upon which we could > > spend money, if we weren't so terribly concerned that it's a bad idea to > > spend money and we should just save

Re: Constant revenue source (was: Google ads on debian.org)

2004-12-15 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 04:33:14PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: > > Sure, you could spend money on any of these things. But you can't > > *justify* spending money on them, because we don't need it. > > And I disagree, and these are only a few things upon which we could > spend money, if we weren't

Re: Constant revenue source

2004-12-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:33:14 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > * Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Well, sure, but it's something intelligent to do w/ a consistent > > revenue stream that would benefit us through SPI (at

Re: Constant revenue source

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:33:14 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Well, sure, but it's something intelligent to do w/ a consistent > revenue stream that would benefit us through SPI (at least, imv). >> > Additionally, Debian has funded d

Re: Constant revenue source (was: Google ads on debian.org)

2004-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Not *entirely* sure what you mean here. As mentioned elsewhere before, > > SPI might have some use for an accounting service at the very least. > > That should be done by SPI, not us. Well, sure, but it's something intelligent to do w/ a consisten

Re: Constant revenue source (was: Google ads on debian.org)

2004-12-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:08:23AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 03:31:47PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > Do you have any suggestion as to something that'd be a consistent > > > > revenue sour

Re: Constant revenue source (was: Google ads on debian.org)

2004-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 03:31:47PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Stephen Frost wrote: > > > Do you have any suggestion as to something that'd be a consistent > > > revenue source for Debian that you *wouldn't* be opposed to? Maybe a > > > Debian Ma

Re: Constant revenue source (was: Google ads on debian.org)

2004-12-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 03:31:47PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > Stephen Frost wrote: > > Do you have any suggestion as to something that'd be a consistent > > revenue source for Debian that you *wouldn't* be opposed to? Maybe a > > Debian Magazine (with/without ads?)? Or a subscriber-only Debia

Constant revenue source (was: Google ads on debian.org)

2004-12-14 Thread Martin Schulze
Stephen Frost wrote: > Do you have any suggestion as to something that'd be a consistent > revenue source for Debian that you *wouldn't* be opposed to? Maybe a > Debian Magazine (with/without ads?)? Or a subscriber-only Debian > website (run by those willing to provide the content for it, obvious