Re: DebConf travel sponsorship

2012-07-05 Thread Richard Darst
Hi, [ This is turning into a "about DebConf travel sponsorship" thread which I am okay with. ] On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 10:59:02AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > If invoices are required, then Debian should book flights for people or > find some other solution to receive those do

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship

2012-07-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Bernd Zeimetz > That pretty much depends on your credit card company. My VISA card is > from my "normal" bank and there is no delay at all, the money is just > gone from my bank account as soon as I pay with it. That's a debit card, not a credit card, then. > If invoices are required, then D

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship

2012-07-05 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 06/20/2012 04:57 PM, Martin Wuertele wrote: > * Iain Lane [2012-06-20 16:25]: > >> Decisions and transfers of money should happen significantly before the >> conference is to take place. 4-6 months, as you suggest, is probably >> about fair. I would very much hope, given the importance of Debc

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-07-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 05:04:18PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 05:45:53PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 03:35:20AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > > > [debconf-surplus] For readers of -project, here's what this means: > > > Sponsors slowly pledge

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-30 Thread Richard Darst
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 05:45:53PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 03:35:20AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > > [debconf-surplus] For readers of -project, here's what this means: > > Sponsors slowly pledge money over the spring, and we usually are in a > > panic about "oh no,

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 03:35:20AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > [debconf-surplus] For readers of -project, here's what this means: > Sponsors slowly pledge money over the spring, and we usually are in a > panic about "oh no, we have no money to afford anything". But as time > goes on, things get

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-22 Thread Richard Darst
problems. Thus, I encourage Debian and DebConf representatives to discuss the parameters of this underwriting (I won't be there, so someone needs to bring this up, probably at some BOF - I see a DebConf travel sponsorship BOF already submitted, as well as a general DebConf BOF). Next is q

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Richard Darst
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 04:21:47PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > I am not saying that the transfer of money should take place before the > tickets are purchased, just that it should happen a lot sooner (so that > sponsorees can estimate their costs with confidence, and so that > sponsors get more for

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Moray Allan
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 03:35 -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > We could decide to allocate travel early, before we knew we'd have a > surplus, and have confidence we'd eventually reduce costs. However, > we are too conservative (=responsible) to want to risk having a > deficit. Thus, the travel-last s

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012, Richard Darst wrote: > It is hard to improve things. The order we spend money is: venue > rental, accom, food, , travel. If travel is > prioritized low, and we always are short of money, travel will keep > being last. Yup. And from a conference organizer POV, thi

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 03:03:46PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Richard Darst writes ("DebConf travel sponsorship"): > > But there is something we could do: "Summon Bigger Bank". We would > > basically want something to even out the year to year uncertai

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Iain Lane
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 04:57:08PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote: > * Iain Lane [2012-06-20 16:25]: > > > Decisions and transfers of money should happen significantly before the > > conference is to take place. 4-6 months, as you suggest, is probably > > about fair. I would very much hope, given t

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Iain Lane [2012-06-20 16:25]: > Decisions and transfers of money should happen significantly before the > conference is to take place. 4-6 months, as you suggest, is probably > about fair. I would very much hope, given the importance of Debconf, > that Debian is willing to underwrite this cost.

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Iain Lane
Hiya, On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 03:03:46PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > […] > The current travel sponsorship system is not fit for purpose. Someone > who can't go unless they get travel sponsorship can't book their > travel unless either they get the sponsorship in time to do so, or > they find some

DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Richard Darst writes ("DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)"): > But there is something we could do: "Summon Bigger Bank". We would > basically want something to even out the year to year uncertainty, and > avera

Re: DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Richard Darst wrote: > If people are interested, I can research more details and present a > better report on the practicality of this scheme, and of course, to > help make it so next year. As someone who missed out on DebConf6 in Mexico due to travel sponsorship

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf travel sponsorship

2012-06-20 Thread Richard Darst
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:55:17AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > I think we should write a detailed page on wiki (with requirement, > what we things are the criteria to ask for sponsorship and so > on...), and provide a email interface (ticket system or a private > mailing list), so that peopl

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf travel sponsorship

2012-06-20 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello, Note: We will have an additional BoF at this DebConf. We will try to broadcast live that session and to take live comments from IRC, so that also the not sponsored people (and all interested people) could discuss. It is hard to improve things. The order we spend money is: venue renta

DebConf travel sponsorship (was: Re: [Debconf-team] Budget status - travel sponsorship)

2012-06-20 Thread Richard Darst
[ Background for -project readers: debconf-team was discussing travel sponsorship money this year, and how it was sent so late, and how extremely non-ideal that is, considering when it is given so late prices are so much higher that the money can't go as far. ] On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 04: