Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-02-24 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi all, Not sure the right forum to raise this - please redirect me as appropriate :) I was checking Debian on my Lenovo P1 G3 today (using testing latest) and figured I'd have another stab at getting the fingerprint working - something I've not had much success with previously on Debian. It tur

Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-02-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:12 PM Mark Pearson wrote: > Is there any interest, as fingerprint reader functionality is now > improving so much on Linux, to have these packages installed by default? Biometrics are almost always used incorrectly and often insecure or easily hackable, it would be bette

Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 05:48:32AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:12 PM Mark Pearson wrote: > > > Is there any interest, as fingerprint reader functionality is now > > improving so much on Linux, to have these packages installed by default? > > Biometrics are almost always us

Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-04 Thread William Bonnet
Hi, > Yes, and we should do that in a way so that our users are not subject to > those attacks by default, but can still log in to their system by using > a biometric sensor, if the laptop provides that feature and they want > it? I'm very interested by this subject an would be happy to help.

Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-04 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Mark" == Mark Pearson writes: Mark> Hi all, Not sure the right forum to raise this - please Mark> redirect me as appropriate :) Mark> I was checking Debian on my Lenovo P1 G3 today (using testing Mark> latest) and figured I'd have another stab at getting the Mark> fing

Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 05:57:15PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > The parts of Debian that are trying to do that are some of the desktop > environments. So, I'd approach the maintainers of Gnome and KDE and > see if they are interested in recommending this functionality. It could also be added to th

Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 04:55:21PM +0100, William Bonnet wrote: > Hi, > > > Yes, and we should do that in a way so that our users are not subject to > > those attacks by default, but can still log in to their system by using > > a biometric sensor, if the laptop provides that feature and they want

Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-05 Thread Philip Hands
Wouter Verhelst writes: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 05:57:15PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: >> The parts of Debian that are trying to do that are some of the desktop >> environments. So, I'd approach the maintainers of Gnome and KDE and >> see if they are interested in recommending this functionality

Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-07 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 11:57 am, Philip Hands wrote: Wouter Verhelst writes: On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 05:57:15PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: The parts of Debian that are trying to do that are some of the desktop environments. So, I'd approach the maintainers of Gnome and KDE and see i

Re: [External] Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-05 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Mark" == Mark Pearson writes: Mark> It's just a case of needing the libfprint and fprintd packages Mark> installed and then under settings->user you can start Mark> registering your prints. Right, and the desktop maintainers could choose to make their desktop meta packages dep

Re: [External] Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-05 Thread Mark Pearson
Thanks Sam & Wouter On 05/03/2021 02:52, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 05:57:15PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: >> The parts of Debian that are trying to do that are some of the desktop >> environments. So, I'd approach the maintainers of Gnome and KDE and >> see if they are intere

Re: [External] Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-06 Thread Mark Pearson
On 05/03/2021 18:14, Sam Hartman wrote: >> "Mark" == Mark Pearson writes: > > Mark> It's just a case of needing the libfprint and fprintd packages > Mark> installed and then under settings->user you can start > Mark> registering your prints. > > Right, and the desktop maintain

Re: [External] Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 06:13:58PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Mark" == Mark Pearson writes: > > Mark> It's just a case of needing the libfprint and fprintd packages > Mark> installed and then under settings->user you can start > Mark> registering your prints. > > Right, and t

Re: [External] Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 4:29 PM Wouter Verhelst wrote: > If it is instead installed by hardware detection (through > https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/hw-detect), I think that the isenkram package is meant to replace this, it relies on the packages containing hardware support announcing this

Re: [External] Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-07 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 06:24:49PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: [...] > If it is instead installed by hardware detection (through > https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/hw-detect), then it will be > installed on all systems that have a fingerprint reader (and which don't > have it disabled in

Re: [External] Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:52 AM wrote: > Surely there is some "canonical" way of dealing with "oh, this shiny > piece of hardware has just appeared; what do you want to do with > it?". The isenkram package is meant to do this, it relies on the packages containing hardware support announcing this

Re: [External] Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-08 Thread Mark Pearson
On 06/03/2021 11:24, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 06:13:58PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: >>> "Mark" == Mark Pearson writes: >> >> Mark> It's just a case of needing the libfprint and fprintd packages >> Mark> installed and then under settings->user you can start >>