Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-10 Thread Karl R. Harger
I enjoy Debian. It's easy to work with, easy to install, easy to modify and is suitable for most of my needs. In Government contracting, Linux has seen greater use. More often, as an OS "underneath" of Oracle, but for other purposes as well. As a systems administrator, far away from the decision ma

Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 08:09:05PM -0500, Karl R. Harger wrote: > I enjoy Debian. It's easy to work with, easy to install, easy to modify and is > suitable for most of my needs. > In Government contracting, Linux has seen greater use. More often, as an OS > "underneath" of Oracle, but for other pur

Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-11 Thread MJ Ray
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] with the idea being ingrained > into everyone that software must be licensed. Of course, at most of > these places you will find that everyone has the trial version of > Winzip, a JRE and Adobe reader on their windows desktops. [...] I am di

Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-11 Thread José Parrella
Roberto C. Sanchez escribió: > I once asked someone at one of these places why they don't use something > like CentOS or Debian. The response that I got was something to do with > having someone to hold accountable outside the organization, someone to > call and yell at when things go wrong and wi

Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-11 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 03:16:22PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > I am disappointed to find many public-sector and SME sites have > licence-expired copies of Winzip and unlicensed copies of Photoshop. > Please suggest that they should upgrade to free software tools like > WiZ, Gimp and GSView. > It tur

Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-11 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > It turns out that the response in cases like that is one of two things: > > 1. we'll pay up and get the licenses current > 2. we can do without it > > Though, my understanding is that at state and local levels > (univer

Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-11 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:09:43AM +0200, Linas ??virblis wrote: > > As for the "somebody to yell at" argument, well... that sounds like a > myth to me. Never heard of anyone contacting a software vendor when > things break. I could be wrong on this one, though. > > Yes, I do work there. And this

Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-11 Thread Marty
Linas Žvirblis wrote: That does not sound like a good argument? Well think about it: would you really be that happy if somebody told you that you must drop Debian for some other system you know little or nothing about, AND you still have to make sure everything works, AND do your regular job at

Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-12 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:11:58PM -0500, Marty wrote: > > In contrast, a transition from Debian (or more realistically, from Unix) to > windows results in a massive increase in job security, due the immediate > need for more support staff. > It is also a morale killer. I once spoke with a sen

Re: Debian in the Federal Government

2007-02-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-10 20:57:43, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: > Unfortunately, I don't know of any places within the government, no > matter how Linux-friendly, that use Debian unless it is "hidden" as the > underpinnings of something purchased from a contractor or reseller or in > an embedded device. I am