Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-03 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! On 02.05.2010 16:45, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: the Debian Project Leader recently asked DSA in his delegation[1] to fix a flaw in the current version of the DMUP, the fact that expulsions are DAM's domain, and not our's. Could you please explain, why this is a flaw? Best regards,

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 09:55:31AM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Could you please explain, why this is a flaw? I think that I should do that, but first let me quote the Comments section of the delegation text, as it was precisely my attempt at explaining that: The ability to change

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-03 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi! Readding IMHO relevant quote for Alexanders Question: * Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org [2010-05-03 10:45:59 CEST]: On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 09:55:31AM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: On 02.05.2010 16:45, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: the Debian Project Leader recently

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On May 3, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: Hi! Readding IMHO relevant quote for Alexanders Question: * Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org [2010-05-03 10:45:59 CEST]: On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 09:55:31AM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: On 02.05.2010 16:45, Martin

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-03 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Jeremiah Foster said: So it seems like there are two processes here; expulsion and deletion. Expulsion is a political process, deletion is a technical process. One entity may have authority over the expulsion and another over the deletion. Am I right in assuming

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-03 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Mon May 03, 2010 at 10:14:27 +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Jeremiah Foster said: So it seems like there are two processes here; expulsion and deletion. Expulsion is a political process, deletion is a technical process. One entity may have authority over

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 11:05:21AM +0200, Jeremiah Foster wrote: So it seems like there are two processes here; expulsion and deletion. Expulsion is a political process, deletion is a technical process. One entity may have authority over the expulsion and another over the deletion. Am I right

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On May 3, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 11:05:21AM +0200, Jeremiah Foster wrote: So it seems like there are two processes here; expulsion and deletion. Expulsion is a political process, deletion is a technical process. One entity may have authority over

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-03 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! On 03.05.2010 10:45, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: If that is not deemed to be clear enough or satisfactory, I'm happy to clarify any additional doubt that people might have. Thanks, this (and the following) indeed clarified my questions. Best regards, Alexander PS: Sorry, didn't saw

Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-02 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
rules that may be violated if necessary but we would rather one did not. 2. General statements - 1. Privilege + 1. Used abbreviations + o DSA - Debian Systems Administration Team + o DMUP - Debian Machine Usage Policy (this document

Re: Debian machine usage policy

1999-11-11 Thread Ben Pfaff
Wichert Akkerman - Debian project leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3. Don't use Debian Facilities for unlawful activities, including, but not limited to, software piracy. Please do not use the term ``piracy.'' It is a loaded word that compares sharing software to murdering people on the

Re: Debian machine usage policy

1999-11-11 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Wichert Akkerman - Debian project leader wrote: Shell: Please use ssh/scp if at all possible (check the copyright, it is not free software, and there is no free replacement) rather than less secure alternatives (rsh, telnet or FTP). Current ssh on non-US is free...

Re: Debian machine usage policy

1999-11-11 Thread Michael Stone
Please use ssh/scp if at all possible (check the copyright, it is not free software, and there is no free replacement) rather than less secure alternatives (rsh, telnet or FTP). You apparantly missed the great ssh rename... Mike Stone (not subscribed to -project) pgpF8Tj0w1g89.pgp

Re: Debian machine usage policy

1999-11-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Michael Stone wrote: You apparantly missed the great ssh rename... It was actually written before that happened.. I'll update the text to reflect that. Wichert. -- _ / Generally uninteresting signature

Re: Debian machine usage policy

1999-11-11 Thread Colin Marquardt
* Wichert Akkerman - Debian project leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2.3 Privacy [...] 2.3 Used abbreviations [...] 2.3, two times. I´d also put Used abbreviations as section 2.1, because e.g. `DSA' is already used in section Privacy. Cheers, Colin PS: I´m not subscribed to debian-project