Re: Debian mailing lists, address munging, news gateway, and the list archives

2003-11-20 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: > And it is properly implemented as a web-based NNTP client. I've no > idea why people insist on reimplementing NNTP badly, complete with > client lock-in, in these forum things. Animated GIF emoticons. -- Sam.

Re: Debian mailing lists, address munging, news gateway, and the list archives

2003-11-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
My position on this, as the linux.* administrator: - addresses munging will make the gateway harder to use and will break by-author search with google (I believe that the archiving by google groups is one of the most important benefits of the gateway). I believe this to be important enough t

Re: Debian mailing lists, address munging, news gateway, and the list archives

2003-11-20 Thread Graham Wilson
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 12:19:58AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:57:01PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > On 2003-11-19 18:41:40 + Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Web-based forums *shudder*, which you could monitor via e-mail. I'd > > >hate that, but if we want

Re: Debian mailing lists, address munging, news gateway, and the list archives

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:57:01PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > On 2003-11-19 18:41:40 + Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Web-based forums *shudder*, which you could monitor via e-mail. I'd > >hate that, but if we want to cater for users I suppose we could > >duplicate the debian-user-* l

Re: Debian mailing lists, address munging, news gateway, and the list archives

2003-11-19 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-11-19 18:41:40 + Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Web-based forums *shudder*, which you could monitor via e-mail. I'd hate that, but if we want to cater for users I suppose we could duplicate the debian-user-* lists on such a system. This is an interesting extra idea, but no

Re: Debian mailing lists, address munging, news gateway, and the list archives

2003-11-19 Thread Roland Mas
MJ Ray, 2003-11-19 17:10:14 +0100 : > The obvious solution to the problem is to secure the bad computers > (upgrade them to Debian), but that's not easy. Is there another way > that doesn't hurt our users? Web-based forums *shudder*, which you could monitor via e-mail. I'd hate that, but if we w

Re: Debian mailing lists, address munging, news gateway, and the list archives

2003-11-19 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-11-19 14:39:29 + Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I see it, we have two solutions to this problem. You appear to be solving side-effects, not the problem. The problem seems to be the number of insecure vulnerable machines out there. If we mung header email addr

Debian mailing lists, address munging, news gateway, and the list archives

2003-11-19 Thread Pascal Hakim
Hi everyone, I'd like to do something about the situation we currently have where people's email addresses are currently shown on both the list archives, and on news. I have talked to a number of people about this situation over the last few weeks, and I have not been able to find any form