> I guess you haven't read news about leaks happening once in a short while?
> It seems as if in most cases the govt is interested mostly not in what was
> leaked, but in who leaked it, so they can make an example of the
> whistleblower.
The arguments against this seem to center on an attacker bei
On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 22:04 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> I might be inattentive, but I did not notice a single pro mentioned
> on
> this thread. The only part, Windows-like "you downloaded this file
> from the
> Internet, it may be bad" popup, can be done with a boolean, and is
> still a
> dubio
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:17:10PM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> If the Secret Police has seized your computer, has physical access to
> your machine and the decryption passphrase for your system, I don't
> think there's any website that you visited that would be more
> incriminating than the
Being able to have Apparmor or SELinux rules that trigger off of
user.xdg.origin.url values would be nice.
Would that be a way to implement the "no non-free software rule" Ian
Jackson originally asked for? A security policy that only allows
opening executables from "free software&quo
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 11:05:38AM -0800, Diane Trout wrote:
> Tracker should have a way to avoid indexing files that have been
> downloaded at least from untrusted domains, and possibly all downloaded
> files.
>
> But yes, we should have a way of indicating "trusted" domains, so users
> get fewer
On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 19:25 +0100, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 08:16:47 -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
>
> > Restricting the execution of files one downloads or disabling
> > macros on
> > word documents you download and open would be a huge security win.
>
> I'm skeptical, at
> The pros vastly outweighs the speculitive cons on this, it's
> literally
> just a tag that's stored on the filesystem. If you can read the tag,
> you can read the file. If you store porn that's readable by others,
> it's not a shock that you go to porn websites. If you have an
> overthrow the go
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On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> Paul R. Tagliamonte writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software
> by stuff in main"):
>> I claim if you can read this attribute, you can observe the rest of those
>> actions passively.
>
> So th
Quoting Ian Jackson (2017-12-07 17:06:43)
> Paul R. Tagliamonte writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software
> by stuff in main"):
>> I claim if you can read this attribute, you can observe the rest of
>> those actions passively.
>
> So the secret
Holger Levsen writes ("technical terms (Re: Automatic downloading of non-free
software by stuff in main)"):
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 04:06:43PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > (Your logic would argue that browser porn mode is basically
> > pointless.)
>
> I did
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 04:06:43PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> (Your logic would argue that browser porn mode is basically
> pointless.)
I didnt get what you ment originally, but after the 3rd mail using these
words I realized you ment "privacy mode".
I dont understand why you are using demeanin
Paul R. Tagliamonte writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by
stuff in main"):
> I claim if you can read this attribute, you can observe the rest of those
> actions passively.
So the secret police who have seized my computer, or my spouse who
suspects me o
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 01:59:16PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 01:52:07PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Furthermore, this "file is dangerous" attribute ought to be copied
> > much more.
>
> no, it ought to be the default. all files should be considered harmful,
> unless t
On Dec 7, 2017 8:52 AM, "Ian Jackson"
wrote:
Paul R. Tagliamonte writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software
by stuff in main"):
> I hilariously discovered this last night as well (playing with IMA), and
> removing the creation of that attr would be a huge
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 01:52:07PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Furthermore, this "file is dangerous" attribute ought to be copied
> much more.
no, it ought to be the default. all files should be considered harmful,
unless tagged otherwise.
> It seems to me therefore that this XDG url saving attri
~Stuart Prescott writes ("Re: Automatically marking downloaded files (was Re:
Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main)"):
> * wget in stretch doesn't set xattrs (but the version in sid does)
Cripes.
> * chromium doesn't set xattrs if you "Fi
Paul R. Tagliamonte writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by
stuff in main"):
> I hilariously discovered this last night as well (playing with IMA), and
> removing the creation of that attr would be a huge step back.
>
> Restricting the execution of
I hilariously discovered this last night as well (playing with IMA), and
removing the creation of that attr would be a huge step back.
Restricting the execution of files one downloads or disabling macros on
word documents you download and open would be a huge security win.
These attributes are de
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> ah, so it's a privacy hole in certain tools, but not in xattr.
Is it any more of a privacy hole than ~/.bash_history?
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On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 05:58:31PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:50:06PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > > > Ah, damnit. It supports *some* xattrs (like the security namespace),
> > > > but apparently not *user* xattrs.
> > > Good. While xattrs have some uses, this
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:50:06PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > > Ah, damnit. It supports *some* xattrs (like the security namespace),
> > > but apparently not *user* xattrs.
> > Good. While xattrs have some uses, this is a hidden privacy hole most users
> > aren't aware of
>
> could you be
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 03:27:42AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > Ah, damnit. It supports *some* xattrs (like the security namespace),
> > but apparently not *user* xattrs.
> Good. While xattrs have some uses, this is a hidden privacy hole most users
> aren't aware of
could you be so kind to e
> Which makes the XDG thing borderline, since the only indicator that a
> file
> has been downloaded they propose is the full url, not a boolean.
But having the URL is useful.
I would love to know where some terribly named file was downloaded
from. (This is at least a fairly common problem in sc
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 11:53:50AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > Good. While xattrs have some uses, this is a hidden privacy hole most users
> > aren't aware of (although /tmp/ is the filesystem least likely to be used
> > forensically against you).
>
> Which makes the XDG thing borderline, since
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 03:27:42AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 01:33:41AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 19:14 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:09:22AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > > That's only because it lives in mm
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 01:33:41AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 19:14 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:09:22AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > That's only because it lives in mm/shmem.c, not under fs/. It does
> > > support xattrs.
> >
> > Have y
On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 19:14 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:09:22AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > That's only because it lives in mm/shmem.c, not under fs/. It does
> > support xattrs.
>
> Have you tried it?
Ah, damnit. It supports *some* xattrs (like the security nam
Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
> On 12/05/2017 03:48 PM, Diane Trout wrote:
>> I would love for files downloaded via a web browser or email client to
>> be marked as having come from the Internet. (Major bonus points if a
>> sync tool like nextcloud can keep files I generated labeled separate
>> from o
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:09:22AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
That's only because it lives in mm/shmem.c, not under fs/. It does
support xattrs.
Have you tried it?
Mike Stone
On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 21:33 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2017, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > > Do most of our file systems have extended attributes turned on
> > > > by now?
> > >
> > > I think (or at least hope) so.
> >
> > Yes, xattrs are supported in most filesystems
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > Do most of our file systems have extended attributes turned on by now?
> >
> > I think (or at least hope) so.
>
> Yes, xattrs are supported in most filesystems on Linux and our official
> kernel packages enable them wherever they're an optional feat
On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 09:09 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 12:48:36PM -0800, Diane Trout wrote:
> > I would love for files downloaded via a web browser or email client to
> > be marked as having come from the Internet. (Major bonus points if a
> > sync tool like nextclou
On 12/05/2017 03:48 PM, Diane Trout wrote:
I would love for files downloaded via a web browser or email client to
be marked as having come from the Internet. (Major bonus points if a
sync tool like nextcloud can keep files I generated labeled separate
from ones my coworkers made)
Chromium (by d
On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 12:48:36PM -0800, Diane Trout wrote:
> I would love for files downloaded via a web browser or email client to
> be marked as having come from the Internet. (Major bonus points if a
> sync tool like nextcloud can keep files I generated labeled separate
> from ones my coworker
to highlight that this would be a very useful feature even
beyond the proposed use case of helping handle download non-free
software.
I would love for files downloaded via a web browser or email client to
be marked as having come from the Internet. (Major bonus points if a
sync tool like nextcloud ca
]] "G. Branden Robinson"
> At 2017-12-01T18:11:34+0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > Microcode itself has data loss and local exploits (such
> > as an unprivileged user of an unprivileged VM taking over the host machine),
> > then often comes in one bunch with IME updates that close remote holes.
>
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 06:09:12AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Over the years, d-legal has discussed a number of packages which
> > automatically download non-free software, under some circumstances.
> >
>
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:07:59PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> Hi Adam,
>
> I think you're probably already away of the factual portions of my
> claims below, but I'm making them for the benefit of the broader
> audience.
>
> At 2017-12-01T18:11:34+0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > > > No, t
At 2017-12-01T20:22:58+0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> Adam spoke about derivative users, not derivative developers, though.
[...]
> Our users are declared our priority, our downstreams aren't.
This is a false dilemma and I urge our community to reject it.
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Hi Adam,
I think you're probably already away of the factual portions of my
claims below, but I'm making them for the benefit of the broader
audience.
At 2017-12-01T18:11:34+0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > > No, those derivatives are damage. While their hearts are in the right
> > > place, they c
Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff
in main"):
> It looks like we two are in agreement that all non-free software is bad,
> even if we differ wrt how acceptable using it is. But we disagree about
> the reason _why_:
>
> * I sa
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:53:22PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> (Dropping the crossposts. The stuff I want to reply to is probably
> material for -project.)
Thanks, crossposts are bad!
> Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by
> stuff in main&q
Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by
stuff in main"):
> > > > Our users are declared our priority, our downstreams aren't.
> > >
> > > It never occurred to me that our downstreams could be considered as n
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 04:10:46PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > > Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me"
> > > > (whoever me is).
> > > Our users are declared our priority, our downstreams aren't.
> >
> > It never occurred to me that our downstreams could be considered a
Enrico Zini writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in
main"):
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 08:22:58PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > [Ian Jackson:]
> > > Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me"
> > &
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 08:22:58PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me"
> > (whoever me is).
> Our users are declared our priority, our downstreams aren't.
It never occurred to me that our downstreams could be considered as not
being
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:53:22PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > I would like to establish a way to prevent this. (There are even
> > > whole Debian derivatives who have as one of their primary goals,
> > > preventing this.
> >
> > No, those derivatives are damage. While their hearts are in th
(Dropping the crossposts. The stuff I want to reply to is probably
material for -project.)
Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff
in main"):
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I would like to establish a
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Over the years, d-legal has discussed a number of packages which
> automatically download non-free software, under some circumstances.
>
> The obvious example is web browsers with extension repositories
> containing bo
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I would like to establish a way to prevent this.
Why would the project do that, though?
> (There are even whole Debian derivatives who have as one of their
> primary goals, preventing this.
Good.
> We should aim for most of the chang
This mail is going to a lot of lists. I have set the followups to
d-policy because ultimately this is hopefully going to result in a
change to policy.
Over the years, d-legal has discussed a number of packages which
automatically download non-free software, under some circumstances.
The
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 04:42:02PM +0200, mrtx wrote:
>
> I really like Debian. I reckon it is the best distro I've ever used, for
> several reasons.
> I know Debian is by default 100% free software. The kernel is deblobbed
> and its default main repository contain
I really like Debian. I reckon it is the best distro I've ever used, for
several reasons.
I know Debian is by default 100% free software. The kernel is deblobbed
and its default main repository contains only free software.
I understand Debian got completely libre by the version 6. Debian
Daniel Pocock pocock.pro> writes:
> Literally, "open source" implies you can see the source. I personally
The correct term for *that* is “shared source”, though.
“Open Source” means that it’s got an OSD-conformant licence
plus that you actually get the source code under that licence.
“OSI cer
Daniel Pocock writes:
> On 28/08/14 08:16, Chris Bannister wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 06:05:55PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>>"JSHint is open source and will always stay this way."[2]
>>>
>>>"To be honest, I'm getting tired of these not-true-open-source talks.
>>> Out of all thin
, don't forget the origins. A good summary is
>>> at http://oreilly.com/openbook/opensources/book/raymond2.html. It is
>>> really worth reading from first hand what the intentions of the
>>> Open-Source-campaign are.
>>>
>>> I especially like this
t http://oreilly.com/openbook/opensources/book/raymond2.html. It is
> > really worth reading from first hand what the intentions of the
> > Open-Source-campaign are.
> >
> > I especially like this bit:
> > "It seemed clear to us in retrospect that the term "f
reading from first hand what the intentions of the
> Open-Source-campaign are.
>
> I especially like this bit:
> "It seemed clear to us in retrospect that the term "free software" had
> done our movement tremendous damage over the years. Part of this
> stemmed fr
-Source-campaign are.
I especially like this bit:
"It seemed clear to us in retrospect that the term "free software" had
done our movement tremendous damage over the years. Part of this
stemmed from the well-known "free-speech/free-beer" ambiguity. Most of
it came from s
On 31/08/14 09:35, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 08:40:16AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>> What I'm really getting at is how do we explain it concisely to new people
>> and boost recognition of genuine free software. I didn't say "ban
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 08:40:16AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> What I'm really getting at is how do we explain it concisely to new people
> and boost recognition of genuine free software. I didn't say "ban this or
> ban that", I was just pointing out that ma
f the email is quite blunt but if you read the
question in my email you will find that is not what it is about at all.
What I'm really getting at is how do we explain it concisely to new
people and boost recognition of genuine free software. I didn't say
"ban this or ban that"
Mason Loring Bliss writes:
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:28:51AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> This is an absurd misrepresentation. No-one is threatening to prevent
>> you using the words the FSF disapprove of.
> And yet, an argument about the merits of saying "free so
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:28:51AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> This is an absurd misrepresentation. No-one is threatening to prevent you
> using the words the FSF disapprove of.
And yet, an argument about the merits of saying "free software" versus saying
"open source&quo
ot; wrote:
> There has been some chat on my recent blog post[1] and #debian-devel
> about whether the terms "open source" or "free software" provide more
> correct or useful terminology.
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Mason Loring Bliss writes ("Re: open source or free software?"):
> It'd probably be easiest to assert zealous FSF support and link to their page
> that specifies what language we are not free to use:
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html
This is an absur
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 06:05:55PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> There has been some chat on my recent blog post[1] and #debian-devel about
> whether the terms "open source" or "free software" provide more correct or
> useful terminology.
It'd probably be eas
On 28/08/14 08:16, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 06:05:55PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>"JSHint is open source and will always stay this way."[2]
>>
>>"To be honest, I'm getting tired of these not-true-open-source talks.
>> Out of all things I need to do with JSHint thi
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 06:05:55PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>"JSHint is open source and will always stay this way."[2]
>
>"To be honest, I'm getting tired of these not-true-open-source talks.
> Out of all things I need to do with JSHint this issue is probably the
> least important on
There has been some chat on my recent blog post[1] and #debian-devel
about whether the terms "open source" or "free software" provide more
correct or useful terminology.
I had more frequently come across the "free software" definition, as it
is used in "_Fr
Dear Free Software contributor*
I'm currently in the process of writing my diploma thesis. I've worked hard
during the last few weeks and months on a questionnaire [1] which shall
collect some data for my thesis. Furthermore the data of this survey will be
interesting for the Fre
First of all I apologize if this is not the right place to ask, but to a
newcomer all the Debian lists can be a bit confusing and I was not able to
find a more relevant list.
I am a master student at the IT University of Copenhagen and I am writing
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2012, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> For example, if package build environment has pre-defined and agreed
> environment variable such as:
>
> DERIVATIVE=(undefined) # debian build
> DERIVATIVE=debian # debian build
> DERIVATIVE=ubuntu # ubuntu build
> DERIVATIVE=trisquel# trisque
On Lu, 03 sep 12, 22:14:44, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> >
> > I am reporting this bug because Stefano Zacchiroli has called for a
> > "free-ness assessment" [2]. It is up to the package maintainer on how to
> > proceed.
>
> So you are making me feel I am doing something DPL does not approve...
> But I c
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 03:46:12PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Am 03.09.2012 15:14, schrieb Osamu Aoki:
>
> > If the bug reporter wishes to kill everything about non-free from Debian
> > related documents and archive area, I can tell him to go to the source
> > :-) "Deb
Hi!
Am 03.09.2012 15:14, schrieb Osamu Aoki:
> If the bug reporter wishes to kill everything about non-free from Debian
> related documents and archive area, I can tell him to go to the source
> :-) "Debian policy" (Sure this is in our "main" area which is the real
> Debian system)
>
> 2.2.3 Th
t. Please state it clearly. Otherwise, I
will close this bug report very soon.
> *Summary:* Package
> debian-reference<http://packages.trisquel.info/source/brigantia/debian-reference>advises
> the user that non-free software is a solution to problems.
>
> *Versions Us
On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 09:41:57AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> For our "Outstanding Contribution to Open Source/Linux/Free Software"
> award, we also had the special pleasure, to receive our presentation
> speech from Karsten Gerloff, president of the Free
Hi again!
Am 07.03.2011 09:41, schrieb Alexander Reichle-Schmehl:
> While it is called the "Linux New Media" award, the decision of whom to
> honor with them isn't done by the company themselves, but by a bigger
> jury, consisting of over 300 representative community members,
> developers, journa
Dear Debian contributors and otherwise involved,
Those who followed the live stream or read our News[1] already knew it:
Debian has been honored with the Linux New Media Award in the Categories
"Best Open Source Server Distribution" and "Outstanding Contribution to
Open Source/Linu
On 07/03/2010 05:46 PM, Toni Mueller wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just been pointed to this:
>
> http://www.reddit.com/comments/cb3n0/are_you_a_canadian_linux_user_youre_about_to/
>
> I'd like the project to assess the impact of this kind of legislation,
> and to publicly speak out against it.
I
Toni Mueller wrote:
> I've just been pointed to this:
> http://www.reddit.com/comments/cb3n0/are_you_a_canadian_linux_user_youre_about_to/
>
> I'd like the project to assess the impact of this kind of legislation,
> and to publicly speak out against it.
Propose a Position Statement GR then becaus
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 17:46 +0200, Toni Mueller wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just been pointed to this:
>
> http://www.reddit.com/comments/cb3n0/are_you_a_canadian_linux_user_youre_about_to/
>
> I'd like the project to assess the impact of this kind of legislation,
> and to publicly speak out agains
Hi,
I've just been pointed to this:
http://www.reddit.com/comments/cb3n0/are_you_a_canadian_linux_user_youre_about_to/
I'd like the project to assess the impact of this kind of legislation,
and to publicly speak out against it.
Kind regards,
--Toni++
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- "Charles Plessy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The core of the problem is obviously that there is no easy platform to build
> interoperable social networks with free software. And it is a pity because
> there is a real demand. In two of the professional associa
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The core of the problem is obviously that there is no easy platform to build
interoperable social networks with free software. And it is a pity because
there is a real demand. In two of the professional associations where I am
member, there was interest to pay people to build software to manage t
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that 'not DFSG free' does not mean bad and that the same DDs voted
I think it should be Free Software plus whatever makes it a
complete, working system, regardless of whether it's DFSG free software.
I think it should be Free Software plus whatever is convenient for
Debian's
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 10:22:32PM -0500, Evan Prodromou wrote:
> > "SB" == Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Or perhaps they are simply a loud and annoying minority, which
> >> is what I suspect.
>
> SB> Minorities are always annoying.
>
> The worst part bei
> "SB" == Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Or perhaps they are simply a loud and annoying minority, which
>> is what I suspect.
SB> Minorities are always annoying.
The worst part being that they're usually right.
~ESP
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On Monday 29 March 2004, at 5 h 24,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathanael Nerode) wrote:
> Or perhaps they are simply a loud and annoying minority, which is what I
> suspect.
Minorities are always annoying.
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 05:24:07AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> Are there going to be endless arguments about each of these points?
That question sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy...
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2. That which causes joy or happiness.
stribution, "main", should be
Free Software plus firmware which isn't free software.
Perhaps you think it should be Free Software plus documentation which isn't
free software.
Perhaps you think it should be Free Software plus boot sectors which aren't
free software.
Hi,
a little more than a month ago we have launched our very own
online-bookshop Bookzilla.de as a partner of Libri.de (a books
distributor). The system runs on machines with Debian GNU/Linux.
We receive a commission of 5% on every article, which we donate 100%
to the Free Software Foundation
Hi,
I have been speaking with Doug Loss and Roger Dingeldine of SEUL/edu
(see www.seul.org/edu) about a coalition they are forming, the purpose
of which will be to promote free software and free content in education.
I feel Debian and this coalition, which to date is being called
the Schoolforge
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:31:48AM -0600, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Marco Herrn wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 02:53:08PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > > > In german, "darf nicht" means: "is not allowed to" whereas
> > > > in english, "may not" is more like "is
The first item of the DFSG makes use of the terms "may not", where probably
"must not" would be more in the spirit.
This mixing up often occurs when german text is too directly
translated to english.
In german, "darf nicht" means: "is not allowed to" whereas
in english, "may not" is more like "
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