Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-10-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/30/2013 02:08 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Seriously, I do agree. Some of the words I read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_word_list, I didn't even know them. I'm not sure learning that Aardvark is an animal, or that Algol is a star is helpful in every day life, and I don't

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-07-07 Thread Paul Wise
For those of you who were wondering about the OpenPGP QR codes stuff, there is now a package in Debian for this: http://packages.debian.org/sid/monkeysign -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-30 Thread Christoph Egger
Hi! Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: I think that hexadecimal is a fairly poor pre-encoding for information exchange via data to speech and speech to data engines (aka voice boxes, brains and fingers). Reading out and typing long strings of hexadecimal digits at OpenPGP keysignings is

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_word_list At the webpage above there is a wordlist of size 256. It also has links to other wordlists for hexdata. Interesting, that seems better than Diceware in multiple ways. Where

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/28/2013 02:10 PM, Paul Wise wrote: Hi all, I think that hexadecimal is a fairly poor pre-encoding for information exchange via data to speech and speech to data engines (aka voice boxes, brains and fingers). Reading out and typing long strings of hexadecimal digits at OpenPGP

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/28/2013 06:07 PM, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: I forgot to mention the reason for these two suggestions. English is a rather bad candidate for use by non-native speakers, because it has a pronunciation that is not very deterministic, with letters that can have distinct pronunciation depending on

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Thomas Goirand (2013-06-29 18:23:14) On 06/28/2013 06:07 PM, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: I forgot to mention the reason for these two suggestions. English is a rather bad candidate for use by non-native speakers, because it has a pronunciation that is not very deterministic, with letters

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: This reminds me related issue (or perhaps the same, I might simply have misunderstood your point above, Tomas): How well do the various wordlists take into account that some (pretty large) groups of non-native english speakers have

OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-28 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all, I think that hexadecimal is a fairly poor pre-encoding for information exchange via data to speech and speech to data engines (aka voice boxes, brains and fingers). Reading out and typing long strings of hexadecimal digits at OpenPGP keysignings is tedious and annoying. So I'm

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-28 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Paul Wise, 2013-06-28 08:10+0200: I think that hexadecimal is a fairly poor pre-encoding for information exchange via data to speech and speech to data engines (aka voice boxes, brains and fingers). Reading out and typing long strings of hexadecimal digits at OpenPGP keysignings is tedious and

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-28 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Tanguy Ortolo, 2013-06-28 11:58+0200: * Esperanto; * latin; I forgot to mention the reason for these two suggestions. English is a rather bad candidate for use by non-native speakers, because it has a pronunciation that is not very deterministic, with letters that can have distinct

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-28 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:07:43 +, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: Latin is a common root to many current languages, and which I think has a completely deterministic pronunciation. Not really, there are variations both historically/geographically and nowadays.

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-28 Thread Clint Adams
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:10:40PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: I think that hexadecimal is a fairly poor pre-encoding for information exchange via data to speech and speech to data engines (aka voice boxes, brains and fingers). Reading out and typing long strings of hexadecimal digits at OpenPGP

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-28 Thread Martin Quinson
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:07:43AM +, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: Tanguy Ortolo, 2013-06-28 11:58+0200: * Esperanto; * latin; Esperanto is a roman language that was designed as a candidate for an international language, and even if I do not know how to speak it, I am quite confident it

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-28 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 01:47:22PM +, Clint Adams wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:10:40PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: I think that hexadecimal is a fairly poor pre-encoding for information exchange via data to speech and speech to data engines (aka voice boxes, brains and fingers). Reading out

Re: OpenPGP keysigning: alternate encodings for fingerprint exchange

2013-06-28 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 08:12:13AM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 01:47:22PM +, Clint Adams wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:10:40PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: I think that hexadecimal is a fairly poor pre-encoding for information exchange via data to speech and