Enrico, I find that the sorts of discussions that you've started are
more valuable if someone goes back later and tries to summarize what
we've learned.
So I'm going to take a stab at that.
I don't think we were seeking a consensus, and we didn't find one. What
we did find is a number of appro
Quoting Sam Hartman (2020-08-12 13:59:07)
> Enrico, I find that the sorts of discussions that you've started are
> more valuable if someone goes back later and tries to summarize what
> we've learned.
> So I'm going to take a stab at that.
Thanks, Sam - I find such summary quite helpful!
...even
Thanks for the summary, Sam.
As an 'amicus' of the project, and interested on these topics, I wanted
to provide my 2 cents.
First of all, you are not the only one with this situation. The issue
arises from the vague meaning of a signature on a pgp key, and also
appears on other venues when using
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 02:59:59AM +0200, Ángel wrote:
> as there would be an external motivation to do that which is financing
> such activity. Please note that by 'company' I am not meaning just
> business entities, but also three letter agencies, nation states,
> malicious hacker groups, mafia..
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 17:57, Adam Borowski
wrote:
I don't get where people get the feeling that producing a passport
would
require a TLA/nation state/organized crime/etc. You can get one for
peanuts.
I've been offered one once, and I inquired about the details -- for
just
~$25 (100PLN)
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:08:01PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> I think the point about fake idenity documents is, it being a criminal
> activity and make one liable for prosecution. So it is not just about
> immediate cost of getting a fake id, but the is high risk if you are caught.
> Not all f
On 2020-08-13 at 17:57 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 02:59:59AM +0200, Ángel wrote:
> > as there would be an external motivation to do that which is financing
> > such activity. Please note that by 'company' I am not meaning just
> > business entities, but also three letter
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 09:03:00PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
>On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:08:01PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>> I think the point about fake idenity documents is, it being a criminal
>> activity and make one liable for prosecution. So it is not just about
>> immediate cost of get
On 2020-08-13 21:03, Adam Borowski wrote:
> I don't think someone could possibly be prosecuted for using a fake passport
> to obtain a gpg signature.
In many (if not most) jurisdictions, using a fake government ID for any
transaction whatsoever is a crime. It's not tied to monetary or any
other ga
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:59:47PM +0200, Christian Kastner wrote:
> On 2020-08-13 21:03, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > I don't think someone could possibly be prosecuted for using a fake passport
> > to obtain a gpg signature.
> But even if it weren't a crime: Once the person waving the fake ID is
> c
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 09:23:58PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 09:03:00PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:08:01PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> >> I think the point about fake idenity documents is, it being a criminal
> >> activity and make one
Quoting Adrian Bunk (2020-08-14 18:33:06)
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 09:23:58PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 09:03:00PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > >On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:08:01PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> > >> I think the point about fake idenity documents i
On 2020-08-14 at 20:27 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Seems we are talking about several things here:
>
> a) trusting an identity _without_ relying on governmental proof
>
> b) proving an identity using fake governmental proof
>
> It is my understanding that a) is illegal and punishable in m
Quoting Ángel (2020-08-14 22:57:32)
> On 2020-08-14 at 20:27 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Seems we are talking about several things here:
> >
> > a) trusting an identity _without_ relying on governmental proof
> >
> > b) proving an identity using fake governmental proof
> >
> > It is my
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