Hello,
I don't know if this is the proper place to speak about this, if so please
tell me where I should send this. I saw the recent email "Conflicts between
Developers: Let others mediate" in this mailing list so it gave me the idea
to explain the issues here, and it's more a "Debian project"
"Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo" writes:
> Precedents
> ==
> After being unofficial co-maintainer for months of OpenSceneGraph [1]
The way that the maintenance of that package is noted in the package
control fields is strange. Recent non-NMU uploads appear to have been
made by people wh
Hi,
I have to reply briefly, I hope that you can infer the rest of the story
from the replies or pointers.
On Friday 02 July 2010 20:56:41 Russ Allbery wrote:
> > and while creating new packages for newer versions of Aqsis [2] and K3D
> > [3] before the freeze, which they were neglected by thei
"Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo" writes:
> I have to reply briefly, I hope that you can infer the rest of the story
> from the replies or pointers.
It wasn't particularly brief! But I've read through your entire message
twice now. I don't think there was a great deal of new information in
this
* Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo [2010-07-02 19:01 +0200]:
> [4] Including not acknowledging NMUs (many of them FTBFS), not replying to
> most (any?) bug reports, not replying when people asked to update the
> software or orphan it if he was not interested anymore, not replying to my
> (private) off
Hi,
First of all, most honest thanks to you Russ, you seem to be the only one
concerned really with what I am saying (even reading it).
On Sunday 04 July 2010 19:36:02 Russ Allbery wrote:
> Please try to use a charitable reading of other people's messages when
>
> > understanding e-mail and, a
Hello Manuel,
I would like you not to be so hurt, calm down and listen to people.
By rule of thumb nobody in the boat is evil, but there are many
misunderstandings which with *pacience and time* will get solved.
2010/7/2 Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo :
> Another thing, I'm going out for the wee
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 03:13:34PM +0200, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
> I, as an outsider, don't want to "investigate and report" on people, in
> general; I'm just concerned with packages being in a good shape (especially
> the ones that I know of, and if I can help in any way).
we
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Patrick Schoenfeld
wrote:
> And that is already wrong and (for now!) IMHO disqualifying you from beeing
> a DD. The point is, we want our DDs to take some responsibility
> for the ideals and goals of the project and to be trustworthy.
> That is because they have u
On 07/06/2010 02:24 PM, Carsten Hey wrote:
> * Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo [2010-07-02 19:01 +0200]:
>> [4] Including not acknowledging NMUs (many of them FTBFS), not replying to
>> most (any?) bug reports, not replying when people asked to update the
>> software or orphan it if he was not intere
Hi,
Firs of all: for people who are going to reply me from now on: Please don't
make me repeat the same thing a dozen times, it's boring for me to have to
do so and for people reading.
So if you're going to tell you opinon about whether you consider that I made
effort enough or not to apply fo
On 06/07/10 10:09, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
AFAICT, none of this justifies silently removing someone from the NM
database.
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Saludos,
Felipe Sateler
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> On 06/07/10 10:09, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
>
>
> AFAICT, none of this justifies silently removing someone from the NM
> database.
I can't speak for the NM team, but if he was asked to go through DM first
(and that's what I understood), I could under
On Tuesday 06 July 2010, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> I can't speak for the NM team, but if he was asked to go through DM
> first (and that's what I understood), I could understand that his NM
> application got removed for now.
This is the thing I'm having some problem with in the discussion so far.
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
> Is it actually OK for FD to "demand" that candidates go through DM
> before applying for DD, or as part of the NM process?
If the FD isn't fairly confident that someone has enough experience in
Debian to make occupying an AM's time and taking slotes and time
On Tuesday 06 July 2010, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
> > Is it actually OK for FD to "demand" that candidates go through DM
> > before applying for DD, or as part of the NM process?
>
> If the FD isn't fairly confident that someone has enough experience in
> Debian
On 06/07/10 15:11, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Felipe Sateler wrote:
>> On 06/07/10 10:09, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
>>
>>
>> AFAICT, none of this justifies silently removing someone from the NM
>> database.
>
> I can't speak for the NM team, but if he was asked to go through DM
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 July 2010, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > Is it actually OK for FD to "demand" that candidates go through DM
> > > before applying for DD, or as part of the NM process?
> >
> > If the FD isn't fairly confide
On Tuesday 06 July 2010, Don Armstrong wrote:
> The FD can say that someone isn't ready to enter the NM process,
> though, and then provide specific suggestions as to how they can
> demonstrate to the FD that they are ready to enter the NM process.
I'm not disagreeing with that. But that's a compl
Hello,
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 21:11:00 Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> > On 06/07/10 10:09, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
> >
> >
> > AFAICT, none of this justifies silently removing someone from the NM
> > database.
>
> I can't speak for the NM team, but if h
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Felipe Sateler wrote:
>> AFAICT, none of this justifies silently removing someone from the NM
>> database.
> I can't speak for the NM team, but if he was asked to go through DM first
> (and that's what I understood), I could understand that his NM a
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 02:01:01PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 July 2010, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > > Is it actually OK for FD to "demand" that candidates go through DM
> > > > before applying for
Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
Is it actually OK for FD to "demand" that candidates go through DM
before applying for DD, or as part of the NM process?
If the FD isn't fairly confident that someone has enough experience in
Debian to make occupying an AM's t
Hi Felipe,
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:51:21AM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> On 06/07/10 10:09, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
>
>
> AFAICT, none of this justifies silently removing someone from the NM
> database.
yes, you are probably right. But OTOH if a candidate fails the basic
checks (did he al
Hello,
On Wednesday 07 July 2010 05:42:06 Steve Langasek wrote:
> > The FD can say that someone isn't ready to enter the NM process,
> > though, and then provide specific suggestions as to how they can
> > demonstrate to the FD that they are ready to enter the NM process.
>
> That doesn't seem to
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