Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-12-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 11:55:07AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > - the use of the debian.org addresses is a strong way for people to show > that they are doing things on behalf of Debian, This. I don't think we should drop @debian.org email addresses for that reason. -- Could you people please

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-12-07 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/11/17 12:53, Ian Jackson wrote: > Someone who was sort-of-MIA said on -private that they would like to > keep their @debian.org email forwarding indefinitely, as they move to > emeritus status. One alternative that wasn't mentioned in this thread: what if Debian stops providing @debian.org

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-11-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ondřej Surý > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 23:01, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > ]] Ian Jackson > > > > > I think that, with some safeguards[1], this would be a good thing to > > > offer people. If nothing else people have often used @d.o addresses > > > in Debian work, where the addresses live on

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-11-18 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 23:01, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Ian Jackson > > > I think that, with some safeguards[1], this would be a good thing to > > offer people. If nothing else people have often used @d.o addresses > > in Debian work, where the addresses live on after they move on, and we >

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-11-17 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ian Jackson > I think that, with some safeguards[1], this would be a good thing to > offer people. If nothing else people have often used @d.o addresses > in Debian work, where the addresses live on after they move on, and we > should definitely encourage even an emeritus member to be

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-11-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Enrico Zini dijo [Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 05:46:52PM +0100]: > I would be ok with saying that emeritus people who have a valid gpg key > can still have email forwarding, exporting the emeritus keyring > alongside the other keyrings, and handling email forwarding > configuration changes via

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages]

2017-11-16 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 07:23:23AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Is this because of it being hard to track the contributions of > non-uploading DDs? Not necessarily (but probably true for some case, for example, those we got DD_nu because of relevant contributions to the debconf orga, that's not

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages]

2017-11-15 Thread Sam Hartman
I think if we can find a way to manage it technically, allowing people to forward email would be a reasonable thing to do.

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages]

2017-11-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > non-uploading DD where the MIA team is not looking at. Is this because of it being hard to track the contributions of non-uploading DDs? Is the MIA team looking at contributors.d.o data? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages]

2017-11-15 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Mattia, On Wed, Nov 15 2017, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > IMHO if somebody care to keep their forward email usable they can very > well care enough to have a robust enough key and keep it in the > keyring, and possibly be demoted to non-uploading DD where the MIA > team is not looking at. I'd

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-11-15 Thread Enrico Zini
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 01:45:52PM +0100, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > In many cases (such this particular one) people don't have a viable gpg > key anymore in the keyring: that means they can't email > chan...@db.debian.org to update their LDAP details (theoretically, they > might still know the LDAP

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages]

2017-11-15 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 04:08:41PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > It would be possible to have an "emeritus" keyring, I guess. Since it > would only be used for email forwarding and a few other things, it > could have weaker security requirements. Techinically such keyring exists, but they are not

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages]

2017-11-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Peter Palfrader writes ("Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding"): > Without a key in a keyring that somebody maintains, authenticating such > requests, even manually, is going to be a PITA. Mattia Rizzolo writes ("Re: Emeritus status, and email forwardi

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-11-15 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:53:18AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Unfortunately it would mean that such people would still need some > > kind of login on Debian systems, so that they could update the email > > forwarding. But it wouldn't have to have

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-11-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:53:18AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Unfortunately it would mean that such people would still need some kind of login on Debian systems, so that they could update the email forwarding. But it wouldn't have to have the wide powers of an active DD/DM account. Unless this

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-11-15 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:53:18AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Unfortunately it would mean that such people would still need some > kind of login on Debian systems, so that they could update the email > forwarding. In many cases (such this particular one) people don't have a viable gpg key