Re: Recruitment of young contributors (Re: Young people and computers)

2013-02-18 Thread Simon Paillard
Hi, On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:16:41AM +, Moray Allan wrote: On 2013-02-09 21:46, Filipus Klutiero wrote: [..] and the only data above simply shows the age of members. The graph is nice, but it doesn't show the age of members at the time they are recruited, and even less how that age

Re: Recruitment of young contributors (Re: Young people and computers)

2013-02-18 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-02-18 09:26, Simon Paillard wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:16:41AM +, Moray Allan wrote: Without the numbers, my impression, shared with others, is that the age of new DDs has increased somewhat, as well as the average age of DDs increasing just from DDs getting older (but not

Re: Recruitment of young contributors (Re: Young people and computers)

2013-02-15 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-02-09 21:46, Filipus Klutiero wrote: How much of what? Your question may be interesting, but I don't know what discussion you're referring to Yes, it wasn't somewhere publicly archived -- that's why I thought it interesting to provide a summary. and the only data above simply

Recruitment of young contributors (Re: Young people and computers)

2013-02-09 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Hi Moray, Moray Allan wrote: There's been some discussion elsewhere about how young people's experience of computers has changed over the years, and how this might interact with our success in recruiting young people into Debian. I would estimate that the conversation focused on 16-20

Re: Young people and computers

2013-02-05 Thread Tony Thedford
If you agree, as I would, that it's useful for Debian to recruit more young people -- they often have a lot of spare time, and a lot of enthusiasm, and good connections to influence and recruit others who might be interested in helping -- then what do you think Debian could do differently

Re: Young people and computers

2013-02-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 09:23:54PM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote: Now, it seems to be a long and comparatively difficult process that involves demonstrating a relatively high level of technical competence. I wonder whether young people find this intimidating. I do not want to discuss the need for

Re: Young people and computers

2013-01-31 Thread Ben Pfaff
Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org writes: There's been some discussion elsewhere about how young people's experience of computers has changed over the years, and how this might interact with our success in recruiting young people into Debian. I would estimate that the conversation focused on

Re: Young people and computers

2013-01-30 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, just stumbled upon some quite related article http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3158 which sounds like a good step. In a German news article[1] you can read that teachers union is not amused about this hardware donation because it is considered plain advertising for the company

Re: Young people and computers

2013-01-29 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Moray Allan dijo [Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 02:40:36PM +]: There's been some discussion elsewhere about how young people's experience of computers has changed over the years, and how this might interact with our success in recruiting young people into Debian. I would estimate that the

Re: Young people and computers

2013-01-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org writes: And your home computer surely gave you better ways of engaging than a dumbphone does nowadays. Getting connected basically means consuming information or sharing lolcatz, or chatting. It is much harder (in my perception, which is anti-phone skewed) to jump

Re: Young people and computers

2013-01-27 Thread Martin Quinson
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 02:40:36PM +, Moray Allan wrote: There's been some discussion elsewhere about how young people's experience of computers has changed over the years, and how this might interact with our success in recruiting young people into Debian. I would estimate that the

Re: Young people and computers

2013-01-26 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-01-26 14:40, Moray Allan wrote: - The conversation wondered how much the number of younger people coming to Debian might have reduced due to changes in wider computer use/culture. Certainly, programming languages used to be an advertised part of the system, where now they are typically