On 2012-04-27 01:36, Kevin Mark wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:00:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
Otherwise, our lack of diversity can either be seen as a
desired/voluntary state of things, or as the result of a failure to
recruit minorities. Here again, I'd be surprised if we didn't
Le Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 05:27:22PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
By the letter of the Constitution, the DPL cannot bless the diversity
statement as a position statement of the Project, even if there is
consensus on it. Nor can Developers as a whole, unless they vote, no
matter the
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:00:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
Otherwise, our lack of diversity can either be seen as a
desired/voluntary state of things, or as the result of a failure to
recruit minorities. Here again, I'd be surprised if we didn't
agree that the latter is by far the
Russ Allbery writes:
[re diversity statement]
That's actually part of the reason why I, personally, would like it to be
a GR. I'd like to see the Debian Project make that statement, and putting
the stamp of official blessing of a GR on it does make that statement
somewhat stronger (and
Steve Langasek writes (Re: xth wrap-up about statement on diversity, statement
may be issued without general resolution):
So I would much prefer that Stefano simply start a GR in favor of the
diversity statement instead. He does have a leg up in that as DPL, he
can propose the GR without
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 02:21:46PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
Steve Langasek writes (Re: xth wrap-up about statement on diversity,
statement may be issued without general resolution):
So I would much prefer that Stefano simply start a GR in favor of the
diversity statement instead. He does
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
Russ Allbery writes:
Personally, I think there would be a lot of merit in holding a GR on
that as well. Legal issues are always highly contentious, and it's
easier to tell people to follow that position with their Debian work
when it's
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:38:25AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Perhaps because under the constitution, position statements are a
power that the developers exercise under GR, not a power that the DPL
has?
In spite of the rhetoric tone :-), this is indeed an important point.
Now that you made
Hi!
On 21.04.2012 17:27, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
There seems to be only two ways out of this: (1) have a GR, or (2) turn
a blind eye on the Constitution recommended procedure, accepting we made
a mistake (of which I'm ready to take the blame), and move on. While I
still see the advantage of
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 05:52:37PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
Hi!
There seems to be only two ways out of this: (1) have a GR, or (2) turn
a blind eye on the Constitution recommended procedure, accepting we made
a mistake (of which I'm ready to take the blame), and move on. While
Le Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 05:27:22PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
By the letter of the Constitution, the DPL cannot bless the diversity
statement as a position statement of the Project, even if there is
consensus on it. Nor can Developers as a whole, unless they vote, no
matter the
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
In my understanding of the Constitution, it is totally acceptable to
write on our website that we welcome everybody, without voting a GR.
What would require a GR would be to write that it is Debian's position
that we welcome everybody.
That's actually
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:47:04PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
The message from Stefano Zacchiroli quoted below includes a wrap-up
(of the wrap-up (of the...)) about the statement on diversity in
contributors proposed by Francesca Ciceri.
Stefano asked to publish it in #669011, although the
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:25:21AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:47:04PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
The message from Stefano Zacchiroli quoted below includes a wrap-up
(of the wrap-up (of the...)) about the statement on diversity in
contributors proposed by
Hi Stefano,
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:47:04PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
The message from Stefano Zacchiroli quoted below includes a wrap-up
(of the wrap-up (of the...)) about the statement on diversity in
contributors proposed by Francesca Ciceri.
Stefano
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