Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Mehdi Dogguy writes ("Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash"): > On 2015-12-02 02:35, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > >> Indeed. And instead of simply adding blog posts, the project may make > >&g

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-22 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:49:17AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Mehdi Dogguy writes ("Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash"): > > On 2015-12-02 02:35, Paul Wise wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > > >> Indeed.

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Ana Guerrero Lopez writes ("Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash"): > From Debian, we already published: > https://bits.debian.org/2015/12/conservancy-fundraising-campaign.html > > Submitted by Mehdi. That's good (sorry not to have checked for it), thanks t

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 01/12/15 15:17, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Tue, 01 Dec 2015, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Could Debian as a project sign up ? Conservancy is a 503(c), like >> SPI, so perhaps we in Debian could commit a modest regular funding >> stream to Conservancy. > > +1 > > We have troubles finding good use

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
(re-sent without attachment) On 01/12/15 15:36, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 03:17:33PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> Let's give them a part of our money for the service they do us by >> enforcing the GPL for Debian developers. > > We already pay for those services.

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 03:58:07PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 03:52:35PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > >We already pay for those services. There is a forfait amount of money that > > >Debian pays to Conservancy per year (1000 USD, IIRC), which corresponds to > > >a

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-02 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 2015-12-02 02:35, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Indeed. And instead of simply adding blog posts, the project may make an official public statement about it. The publicity team and associated folks posted these when the campaign began.

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 11:44:34AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > I thought we paid a retainer to the Software Freedom Law Center, not the > Software Freedom Conservancy. Am I confused? I'm not aware of any retainer paid to Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) directly by Debian. SFLC is Debian's

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 01/12/2015 15:36, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > So if Debian really wants to help Conservancy, promoting their > current campaign for individual memberships would be a very useful > thing to do. > Indeed. And instead of simply adding blog

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Clint Adams
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 09:04:28PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm not aware of any retainer paid to Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) > directly by Debian. SFLC is Debian's lawyer "transitively", via the > services that they offer to SPI's affiliated projects. It might be the > case that

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > Indeed. And instead of simply adding blog posts, the project may make > an official public statement about it. The publicity team and associated folks posted these when the campaign began. https://identi.ca/debian/note/hPj5AtNkQxGfsgI9upgBWA

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:48 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > It might be a little more complicated than that given our own 501(c) > status, I think (but I am no longer a lawyer end never was an American > tax lawyer. Debian has no legal status, perhaps you are thinking of SPI? -- bye, pabs

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash"): > On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 03:52:35PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > What does "forfait" mean? ... > It means we pay that sum per year, and we have pre-allocated to us a > given amount o

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Joel W. Shea
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 09:35:26AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > > > Indeed. And instead of simply adding blog posts, the project may make > > an official public statement about it. > > [...] > > Were you thinking of something in a different

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > We already pay for those services. There is a forfait amount of money > that Debian pays to Conservancy per year (1000 USD, IIRC), which > corresponds to a forfait amount of lawyer hours that Conservancy give to > Debian per year. If any enforcement

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 01:17:53PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > As reported here: > https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/ > > Conservancy is an amazingly good thing. They are the only > organisation doing GPL enforcement for non-FSF projects. They are > facing financial problems because one of

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 01:17:53PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Conservancy is an amazingly good thing. They are the only >> organisation doing GPL enforcement for non-FSF projects. > Where can I read some examples about this? Their

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 03:17:33PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Let's give them a part of our money for the service they do us by > enforcing the GPL for Debian developers. We already pay for those services. There is a forfait amount of money that Debian pays to Conservancy per year (1000 USD,

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash"): > On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 01:17:53PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Conservancy is an amazingly good thing. They are the only > > organisation doing GPL enforcement for non-FSF projects.

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 01:17:53PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Conservancy is an amazingly good thing. They are the only > organisation doing GPL enforcement for non-FSF projects. Where can I read some examples about this? -- WBR, wRAR

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Stefano Zacchiroli , 2015-12-01, 15:36: Let's give them a part of our money for the service they do us by enforcing the GPL for Debian developers. We already pay for those services. There is a forfait amount of money that Debian pays to Conservancy per year (1000 USD,

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 03:52:35PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > >We already pay for those services. There is a forfait amount of money that > >Debian pays to Conservancy per year (1000 USD, IIRC), which corresponds to > >a forfait amount of lawyer hours that Conservancy give to Debian per year. > >

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
I also donate as a supporter. Anyone that can, should! Paul On Dec 1, 2015 8:18 AM, "Ian Jackson" wrote: > As reported here: > https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/ > > Conservancy is an amazingly good thing. They are the only > organisation doing GPL

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 01 Dec 2015, Ian Jackson wrote: > Could Debian as a project sign up ? Conservancy is a 503(c), like > SPI, so perhaps we in Debian could commit a modest regular funding > stream to Conservancy. +1 We have troubles finding good use of our money. This one should not cause any problem to

Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

2015-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
As reported here: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/ Conservancy is an amazingly good thing. They are the only organisation doing GPL enforcement for non-FSF projects. They are facing financial problems because one of their major donors has withdrawn. Conservancy's determination to make