Re: Some more reality..

2000-06-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 15-Jun-00, 23:06 (CDT), John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On 13-Jun-00, 01:57 (CDT), John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > non-free systems), I do not see what is "unforgivable" about opposing > > a resolution that asks our users t

Re: Some more reality..

2000-06-15 Thread John Goerzen
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 13-Jun-00, 01:57 (CDT), John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ...Nor did I say that it is not useful simply because I did not use > > it. Nor, I think, did anyone else support my position on those > > grounds, although plenty supported t

Re: Some more reality..

2000-06-13 Thread Steve Greenland
On 13-Jun-00, 01:57 (CDT), John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...Nor did I say that it is not useful simply because I did not use > it. Nor, I think, did anyone else support my position on those > grounds, although plenty supported the opposition on the grounds that > they personally use

Re: Some more reality..

2000-06-13 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 13 Jun 2000, John Goerzen wrote: > > John has said that non-free has ceased to be useful based on the fact that > > he doesn't actually make use of it, and many others agreed with this > > assesement. So here is a slightly different perspective. > Jason, you are so badly distorting my posi

Re: Some more reality..

2000-06-12 Thread John Goerzen
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John has said that non-free has ceased to be useful based on the fact that > he doesn't actually make use of it, and many others agreed with this > assesement. So here is a slightly different perspective. Jason, you are so badly distorting my positi

Re: Some more reality..

2000-06-11 Thread Joey Hess
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > The numbers: (non-free + contrib = total) > [ prior to this point I have no record I non-free stuff, I do not recall > if it existed or not. ] > bo: 69 + 0 = 67 (combined non-free/contrib) > hamm: 183 + 78 = 261 > slink: 225 + 77 = 302 > potato: 236 + 1

Re:Re: Some more reality..

2000-06-11 Thread truename
[snip] >> reason alone. In particular I'd like to see a little consideration for >> some of the more diverse groups that are serviced by non-free [anyone else >> notice how many Asian fonts are in there?]. [snip] >For the record, the most of Japanese fonts related packages are >DFSG c

Re: Some more reality..

2000-06-11 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, at Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:50:13 -0600 (MDT), Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In fact, the download ratios don't seem to have changed much since the > last time this came up, still about 5-6% of all downloads from > ftp.debian.org are for non-free

Some more reality..

2000-06-10 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
John has said that non-free has ceased to be useful based on the fact that he doesn't actually make use of it, and many others agreed with this assesement. So here is a slightly different perspective. I have gone back and counted the number of packages in the non-free sections in debian, if Joh