Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-21 Thread evan
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 07:27:11AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > You're free to think what you like, but if you're going to make > > derogatory public remarks, intellectual integrity requires that you > > provide evidence for your opinions. > > Well, that same integrity would require that you provide

Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-20 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You're free to think what you like, but if you're going to make > derogatory public remarks, intellectual integrity requires that you > provide evidence for your opinions. Well, that same integrity would require that you provide evidence for your essay's claims

Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Evan Prodromou dijo [Thu, May 18, 2006 at 04:08:57PM -0400]: > >However, one thing that Debian is not good at, is providing > >authoritative statements about licenses. It would be great if you could > >find a way to change that somehow, but otherwise.. > I think it'd be nice if we could put togethe

Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-19 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Fri, 2006-19-05 at 07:27 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [...] http://evan.prodromou.name/CC_Licence_Distinctions > > I think some of that is shooting at shadows, some is hyperbole > and some is contentious: You're free to think what you like, but if you're go

Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-19 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 12:34 -0400, Evan Prodromou wrote: > So: if there's a public statement by Debian or > debian-legal on a license (like http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary > is now), would it be misleading for an organization to point to that > statement? Especially if it was clear that th

Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-18 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] http://evan.prodromou.name/CC_Licence_Distinctions I think some of that is shooting at shadows, some is hyperbole and some is contentious: for example, the "minor techincal issues" with the CC licences *have* been exploited by licensors to render works

Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-18 Thread Evan Prodromou
Wouter Verhelst wrote: So: if there's a public statement by Debian or debian-legal on a license (like http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary is now), would it be misleading for an organization to point to that statement? Especially if it was clear that the review and approval was not an endorse

Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 12:34:54PM -0400, Evan Prodromou wrote: > But I think there's some value for people deciding on a license in > knowing which licenses clearly prevent a work from being included in > Debian and which do not. I would think so, too. > So: if there's a public statement by Debi

Re: Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible ?licenses

2006-05-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Debian and which do not. So: if there's a public statement by Debian or >debian-legal on a license (like http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary debian-legal@ is just a mailing list, so it cannot make any statement. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Using the Debian open use logo to distinguish DFSG-compatible licenses

2006-05-18 Thread Evan Prodromou
The upcoming Creative Commons 3.0 license suite is being tailored specifically to be compatible with the DFSG and make works licensed under the Attribution or Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 licenses acceptable for inclusion in Debian. One of the major criticisms of Creative Commons has been that they