Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

2002-11-01 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 02:29:02PM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: OY I don't see the relation between anarchism and free _software_. DB Well, do you at least see relation between _free_ software and freedom? OY Are all anarchism non-free? I can't parse it, sorry. Please add some more words to make

Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

2002-11-01 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:14:46 +0200, Dmitry Borodaenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:24:32AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: DB I hope the day when political discussions about Debian's free DB nature are considered irrelevant and ghettoized into -curiosa DB never comes, for

Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

2002-11-01 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:06:40PM +0100, Matijs van Zuijlen wrote: MC Debian developers wouldn't need to grow their own food, because MC they could trade their code for food. We have lots of users. I'm MC sure that open source developers in general would all be fed, if MC society found our

Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

2002-10-31 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:24:32AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: DB I hope the day when political discussions about Debian's free DB nature are considered irrelevant and ghettoized into -curiosa DB never comes, for it would mean that we no longer care about DB freedom. OY I don't see the

Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

2002-10-30 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
[ As some people have pointed out, this discussion is non-technical, hence it belongs to debian-project rather than debian-devel where it was started. ] On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:10:02PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: GM Hmmm, good point in theory, i think it happened once to strip power GM from

Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

2002-10-30 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 08:41:14AM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: RC We are not anarchistic in that sense because we are too sane. ;) RC We have some anarchistic tendencies though. I think that is what we should discuss: instead of holy wars about pros and cons of anarchism per se, why not take a

Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

2002-10-30 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 04:37:44PM +0100, Thomas Quinot wrote: TQ This is a very common misconception. Free Software is in fact all TQ about asserting and maintaining property rights. The reason why the TQ GPL can exist is because society has established the rules of TQ property and copyright,

Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

2002-10-30 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:12:56 +0200, Dmitry Borodaenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to debian-devel@lists.debian.org: [long thread about anarchism] On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:50:02PM +, Mark Brown wrote: CW Interesting as this thread is, could it please be moved to a CW non-technical list such