Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-10 Thread Martin Wuertele
Hi Raphael! * Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org [2009-11-10 00:36]: But indeed it's only a proposal at this point. The release team needs to set a date in stone now. If you're talking about the Ubuntu release team that's up to them. If you talk about the Debian release team then I don't

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:35:45AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Luk proposed a new freeze date of march 2010: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg2.html But indeed it's only a proposal at this point. The release team needs to set a date in stone now. Does it?

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-10 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:11:08 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:35:45AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg2.html But indeed it's only a proposal at this point. The release team needs to set a date in stone

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Martin Wuertele wrote: If you're talking about the Ubuntu release team that's up to them. If you talk about the Debian release team then I don't think so. A proposale is a proposal not a policy. I don't get your point. How do you go from a proposed freeze date to a

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Sure, if most DDs have just took that mail as a proposal that they can safely ignore, the release team should probably be more precise, but I doubt the substance will be anything else than what we have now. (I also duly notice that the release

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-10 Thread Luk Claes
Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Sure, if most DDs have just took that mail as a proposal that they can safely ignore, the release team should probably be more precise, but I doubt the substance will be anything else than what we have now. (I also duly

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: Luk proposed a new freeze date of march 2010: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg2.html Ah, this message came in while I was on vacation and I somehow missed it. Thank you. This answers my questions. -- Russ Allbery

squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-09 Thread Russ Allbery
not seen anything further, and I have seen Ubuntu folks talking about the Debian squeeze release cycle as if it's a sure thing and we've already decided. It's also come up in a few other contexts in Debian. However, I don't think we *have* decided, so I'm concerned that we're giving people incorrect

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-09 Thread Robbie Williamson
was with a statement that no decision had been made and the release team and others were going to think about this and provide more information later. Since then, I've not seen anything further, and I have seen Ubuntu folks talking about the Debian squeeze release cycle as if it's a sure thing

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-09 Thread Andre Felipe Machado
Hello, There is still a staged proposal that could benefit BOTH entities that still remains unanswered by Canonical: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2009/08/msg00273.html Regards. Andre Felipe Machado http://www.techforce.com.br

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 04:50:36PM -0600, Robbie Williamson wrote: I can't speak for all of Ubuntu, but the only thing I have heard is a *proposal* to freeze in March. I read[0] that 'lucid lynx' (being LTS) will sync from 'testing' as opposed to 'unstable'. Does this affect affect Debian's

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-09 Thread Robbie Williamson
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 21:19 -0200, Andre Felipe Machado wrote: Hello, There is still a staged proposal that could benefit BOTH entities that still remains unanswered by Canonical: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2009/08/msg00273.html Ah, yes...I can answer this. We are *very*

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: So, there was a long discussion here after Debconf about the merits or lack thereof of a freeze date at the end of this year for a squeeze release early next year. My general feeling of the discussion was that there was a fair bit of opposition to

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Nov 09 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Mon, 09 Nov 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: So, there was a long discussion here after Debconf about the merits or lack thereof of a freeze date at the end of this year for a squeeze release early next year. My general feeling of the discussion was

Re: squeeze release cycle?

2009-11-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: critical bugs. That gave to nice aphorisms like release when ready, but did not really cater to timeliness of the releases. We are speaking of the freeze date, not the release date. other way: Where timeliness trumps the quality. We also have