On 2012-04-27 01:36, Kevin Mark wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:00:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
Otherwise, our lack of diversity can either be seen as a
desired/voluntary state of things, or as the result of a failure to
recruit "minorities". Here again, I'd be surprised if we didn't
ag
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:00:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
>
> Otherwise, our lack of diversity can either be seen as a
> desired/voluntary state of things, or as the result of a failure to
> recruit "minorities". Here again, I'd be surprised if we didn't
> agree that the latter is by far t
Le Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 05:27:22PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
>
> By the letter of the Constitution, the DPL cannot bless the diversity
> statement as a position statement of the Project, even if there is
> consensus on it. Nor can Developers as a whole, unless they vote, no
> matter
Ian Jackson writes:
> Russ Allbery writes:
>> Personally, I think there would be a lot of merit in holding a GR on
>> that as well. Legal issues are always highly contentious, and it's
>> easier to tell people to follow that position with their Debian work
>> when it's been voted on as a GR.
>
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 02:21:46PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Steve Langasek writes ("Re: xth wrap-up about statement on diversity,
> statement may be issued without general resolution"):
> > So I would much prefer that Stefano simply start a GR in favor of the
> >
Steve Langasek writes ("Re: xth wrap-up about statement on diversity, statement
may be issued without general resolution"):
> So I would much prefer that Stefano simply start a GR in favor of the
> diversity statement instead. He does have a leg up in that as DPL, he
> can pro
Russ Allbery writes:
> [re diversity statement]
>
> That's actually part of the reason why I, personally, would like it to be
> a GR. I'd like to see the Debian Project make that statement, and putting
> the stamp of official blessing of a GR on it does make that statement
> somewhat stronger (and
Charles Plessy writes:
> In my understanding of the Constitution, it is totally acceptable to
> write on our website that we welcome everybody, without voting a GR.
> What would require a GR would be to write that it is Debian's position
> that we welcome everybody.
That's actually part of the r
Le Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 05:27:22PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
>
> By the letter of the Constitution, the DPL cannot bless the diversity
> statement as a position statement of the Project, even if there is
> consensus on it. Nor can Developers as a whole, unless they vote, no
> matter the
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 05:52:37PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> Hi!
> >There seems to be only two ways out of this: (1) have a GR, or (2) turn
> >a blind eye on the Constitution recommended procedure, accepting we made
> >a mistake (of which I'm ready to take the blame), and move on.
Hi!
On 21.04.2012 17:27, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
There seems to be only two ways out of this: (1) have a GR, or (2) turn
a blind eye on the Constitution recommended procedure, accepting we made
a mistake (of which I'm ready to take the blame), and move on. While I
still see the advantage of n
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:38:25AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Perhaps because under the constitution, position statements are a
> power that the developers exercise under GR, not a power that the DPL
> has?
In spite of the rhetoric tone :-), this is indeed an important point.
Now that you made
Hi Stefano,
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:47:04PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> The message from Stefano Zacchiroli quoted below includes a wrap-up
> (of the wrap-up (of the...)) about the statement on diversity in
> contributors proposed by Francesca Ciceri.
> Stef
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:25:21AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:47:04PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> > The message from Stefano Zacchiroli quoted below includes a wrap-up
> > (of the wrap-up (of the...)) about the statement on diversity in
> > contributors propo
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:47:04PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> The message from Stefano Zacchiroli quoted below includes a wrap-up
> (of the wrap-up (of the...)) about the statement on diversity in
> contributors proposed by Francesca Ciceri.
> Stefano asked to publish it in #669011, although
The message from Stefano Zacchiroli quoted below includes a wrap-up (of
the wrap-up (of the...)) about the statement on diversity in
contributors proposed by Francesca Ciceri.
Stefano asked to publish it in #669011, although the statement is not
approved.
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Fri, Mar
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