OT: Thank you for the discussion! +reply to (was: Re: python shebang, and other interpreters.)

2009-09-21 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 21:51 +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > On Mon, 21.09.2009 at 12:13:46 +0200, Wolodja Wentland > wrote: Note Let me first say one thing. I actually planned to write a big "thank you for the discussion" mail this evening, because I really had the feeling that I as

Re: python shebang, and other interpreters.

2009-09-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 21.09.2009 at 12:13:46 +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > Hmmm, no. Python applications that need a specific version of Python > should use > > #!/usr/bin/env pythonX.Y > > or > > #!/usr/bin/pythonX.Y > > stating that they need this specific version of Python. how else is

Re: python shebang, and other interpreters.

2009-09-21 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 14:07 +0200, Siegfried Gevatter wrote: > 2009/9/21 Josselin Mouette : > >>  Maybe the applications > >> using /usr/bin/env should get a bug filled, I agree with that. > Can someone explain again what is it that we are gong to gain by > patching like 50% of all applications?

Re: [kob...@debian.org: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu]

2009-09-21 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:34:24PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 02.07.2009 13:05, Jonas Meurer wrote: >> why not wait for zope2.12 with python2.5/2.6 support, upload that one to >> debian/unstable and afterwards file a request for removal for >> zope2.10/zope2.11/python2.4? I believe that a zo

Re: python shebang, and other interpreters.

2009-09-21 Thread Siegfried Gevatter
2009/9/21 Josselin Mouette : >>  Maybe the applications >> using /usr/bin/env should get a bug filled, I agree with that. Can someone explain again what is it that we are gong to gain by patching like 50% of all applications? -- Siegfried-Angel Gevatter Pujals (RainCT) Free Software Developer

Re: python shebang, and other interpreters.

2009-09-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 21 septembre 2009 à 08:36 +0100, Floris Bruynooghe a écrit : > This is indeed desired and the policy says to use /usr/bin/python, for > reasons explained in this thread already. Maybe the applications > using /usr/bin/env should get a bug filled, I agree with that. Given their number, t

Re: python shebang, and other interpreters.

2009-09-21 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 08:36 +0100, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:35:19AM +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 22:18 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > > Wolodja Wentland wrote: >> I really don't get it. How could it possibly be better to have a >> wild

Re: Backports: Django, web.py, Trac - anyone wants them?

2009-09-21 Thread anatoly techtonik
Trac for sure. Is there any _short_ howto about Debian backports for Python folks? --anatoly t. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:54 AM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Hi, > > for some reasons I need lenny backports of python-django, > python-webpy and trac. Some of the packages I don't need for > "produc

Re: [kob...@debian.org: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu]

2009-09-21 Thread Jonas Meurer
hey, On 20/09/2009 Matthias Klose wrote: > On 20.09.2009 16:45, Jonas Meurer wrote: > >if i got it right then packaging the dependencies as seperate packages > >isn't an option for zope2.12, we'll have to include them within the > >zope2.10 source tarball. the reason for that is, that zope2.12 req

Re: Backports: Django, web.py, Trac - anyone wants them?

2009-09-21 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Toni Mueller, 2009-09-21] > Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 7.0.50) python-sphinx python-sphinx is already backported (for Pylons users who have all the backports available in bpo or [1] and soon will have pylons.debian.net with some docs/warnings) [1] http://people.debian.org/~piotr/len

Re: Backports: Django, web.py, Trac - anyone wants them?

2009-09-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 21.09.2009 at 01:54:13 +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > for some reasons I need lenny backports of python-django, I could make use of python-django 1.1 in Lenny. Until I have a backport, I'll need to install it locally. > Is someone interested in doing the backports? :~) I brief

Re: python shebang, and other interpreters.

2009-09-21 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:35:19AM +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 22:18 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > Wolodja Wentland wrote: > > [ placed on top because this is the main point ] > > > > If however the *env python scheme is enforced in the policy the problems > > > I o