Trac wrong plugin names.

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:34 AM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > >> Now I still have >> AccountManager named "urwid" in Trac Admin panel, but I do not even >> want to repeat this awful SSH experience. > > I have the same problem (wrong Python package names as names of > Trac plugins in the admin panel)

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:29 AM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : >> >> Then why can't you wait until upstream developers, whose product >> bundles that library, confirm, validate, test and release fix for that >> error in their source package together with release announce

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : Is it possible to create symlink on a symlink? (I am on windows right now - can't test) Yes. That's true. Trac was designed to work even without JavaScript, but Trac plugins are written by community and people often assume that jQuery is available. That's why t

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : Then why can't you wait until upstream developers, whose product bundles that library, confirm, validate, test and release fix for that error in their source package together with release announcement? Also in the case of Trac/jQuery. Again, many applications have

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2009-27-12 at 22:13 +0200, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Is it possible to create symlink on a symlink? yes > (I am on windows right now - can't test) -- --gh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:56 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > >> 2. Thing to consider. When you create Environment and "deploy" it with >> trac-admin (to generate fastcgi/mod_wsgi scripts) - copies of static >> resources for web-server, including JavaScript won't be updated when >> you fix your secu

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:24 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > It would be helpful, if you could state the exact problems you > had because of the newer jQuery. Not 100% sure it was only jQuery (can't test this right now) but, for example, I could not drill down beneath the first level in template

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
anatoly techtonik wrote: > Upstream Trac is shipped with jQuery it needs while leaving Genshi and > other libraries as dependencies. Debian specific patch removes jQuery > from Trac distribution even though it contributes only 2% to package > size. It's not about package size, it's about security

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : 1. Trac is not a package - it's an application. Inside of Debian, applications, libraries, and many other things come as "package" as we call it. In Debian, trac is a package. If there will be a problem in one of the files that shipped with Trac sources - it is a

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : If you see jquery.js file inside of its source package - why not to leave it alone - where is the Policy that requires to replace it with some external copy? In general, Debian puts a lot of work into finding and removing embedded code copies. Sometimes, this is no

Re: Unit tests

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > >> Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : >> > Even if most users don't need them, tests greatly increase the value >> > of bugreports and doesn't bloat python packages too much. >> >> True. What do other people think of the issue? > > I think the judge

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > >> Upstream Trac is shipped with jQuery it needs while leaving Genshi and >> other libraries as dependencies. Debian specific patch removes jQuery >> from Trac distribution even though it contributes only 2% to package >> size. This dependency in

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 6:01 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > >> I don't feel like I >> want to check if they are compatible next time I'd like to use one. >> 15kBytes doesn't worth wasted hours. > > The issue is not 15 kB, but the problems Debian would have if an > error must be fixed in jQuery (e.