Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/11/2013 04:07 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Thomas Goirand, 2013-07-10] >> And then, finally, it's called "migrate" instead of "sqlalchemy-migrate" >> like upstream called it... :) >> (this never happened to me with python-migrate, though that's a good >> example of a IMO badly named source p

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/11/2013 03:59 AM, Bradley M. Froehle wrote: > I think a recommendation (for new packages) would be helpful, but I'm > against any source naming requirements or strict rules. Then we agree! That's all what I'm asking for. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debi

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Oh, I need this pyX package... Let's download it. I assume here you mean "I need whatever package provides 'import pyX' for python"? If so this is solvable using something like DEP-11 that maps package names to things that they provide (sha

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 11, 2013, at 03:54 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >Ok, so let's not use the word "rule" but call it "guide-line", and for >future packages only (I have *never* proposed to change already uploaded >packages). Do you feel more comfortable now? :) Does your response mean you disagree with my sugge

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Thomas Goirand, 2013-07-10] > And then, finally, it's called "migrate" instead of "sqlalchemy-migrate" > like upstream called it... :) > (this never happened to me with python-migrate, though that's a good > example of a IMO badly named source package) if you wanted to download python-migrate's s

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Bradley M. Froehle
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 07/10/2013 10:30 PM, Stuart Prescott wrote: >> Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> On 07/08/2013 10:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: There is no policy on this either way, so there's no "mistake". >>> >>> Well, the mistake is precisely to have n

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/10/2013 10:30 PM, Stuart Prescott wrote: > Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 07/08/2013 10:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>> There is no policy on this either way, so there's no "mistake". >> >> Well, the mistake is precisely to have no rule, IMO. > > Rules for packaging things are normally there

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 10.07.2013 16:30, schrieb Stuart Prescott: > Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 07/08/2013 10:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>> There is no policy on this either way, so there's no "mistake". >> >> Well, the mistake is precisely to have no rule, IMO. > > Rules for packaging things are normally there t

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Stuart Prescott, 2013-07-10] > What mess? If there is a perceived mess, why is that a problem in any case? > How does it help to make a new rule? Who does it help? What problem does > this solve? Why is any intellectual energy being spent on this at all? > > It looks exceedingly like a rule for

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:30:54 AM Stuart Prescott wrote: > Thomas Goirand wrote: > > On 07/08/2013 10:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> There is no policy on this either way, so there's no "mistake". > > > > Well, the mistake is precisely to have no rule, IMO. > > Rules for packaging things

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Stuart Prescott
Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 07/08/2013 10:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> There is no policy on this either way, so there's no "mistake". > > Well, the mistake is precisely to have no rule, IMO. Rules for packaging things are normally there to solve problems of interoperability and to assist QA

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 10, 2013, at 08:11 AM, Alastair McKinstry wrote: >FWIW, I think the current scheme works best. > >I manage a bunch of packages that have python wrappers; the package >then pretty much _has_ to follow the current scheme, eg. > >Source package: silo >Bin packages: libsilo0 >

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 10, 2013, at 02:58 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >On 07/08/2013 10:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> There is no policy on this either way, so there's no "mistake". > >Well, the mistake is precisely to have no rule, IMO. > >On 07/08/2013 11:37 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> Hopefully, it will become

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Alastair McKinstry
FWIW, I think the current scheme works best. I manage a bunch of packages that have python wrappers; the package then pretty much _has_ to follow the current scheme, eg. Source package: silo Bin packages: libsilo0 libsilo-dev python-silo

Re: Inconsistency in source package naming for python modules

2013-07-10 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 07/08/2013 10:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> There is no policy on this either way, so there's no "mistake". > > Well, the mistake is precisely to have no rule, IMO. Agreed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.de