Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Tagliamonte writes: > Donald pung me after, and he's open to working with us. Thank you! It's important to have calm discussion with upstream, when we can make a positive difference to this specification. -- \ “Teach a man to make fire, and he will be warm for a day. Set a | `\

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 05:05:39PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Piotr Ożarowski , 2013-09-19, 15:33: > >any proposals on how to detect packages that import ctypes > It's not necessarily only ctypes. What are the other cases? > >(other than parsing sources, please ;) > Don't detect anything. Add

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Piotr Ożarowski , 2013-09-19, 15:33: any proposals on how to detect packages that import ctypes It's not necessarily only ctypes. (other than parsing sources, please ;) Don't detect anything. Add an option (say, --multiarch-me-harder), so that maintainers can opt-in for :any dependencies

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Nicolas Chauvat
Hi, On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 06:45:24PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > It shows my background, but when I need older versions of things I > fire up a chroot and work in that. I often do that even for the > same distro release I'm running to keep things separated. It's quite > possible to deal wi

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 05:16:22PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Howdy all, > > Over at the ‘python-dev’ forum, PEP 453 is being discussed. This affects > Debian packaging of Python, and packages written for Python. > > See the discussion thread and take the opportunity to represent Debian > https:/

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 05:16:22PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: >> Howdy all, >> >> Over at the ‘python-dev’ forum, PEP 453 is being discussed. This >affects >> Debian packaging of Python, and packages written for Python. >> >> See the discussion thread and take the opport

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Julien Cristau, 2013-09-19] > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 14:55:17 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > > [Julien Cristau, 2013-09-19] > > > Well, in Jakub's case the module does dlopen("libaa.so.1"), so while it > > > doesn't care about the interpreter's architecture, it does need the > > > libaa1 and

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 14:55:17 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Julien Cristau, 2013-09-19] > > Well, in Jakub's case the module does dlopen("libaa.so.1"), so while it > > doesn't care about the interpreter's architecture, it does need the > > libaa1 and python3 packages to be of the same archit

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Julien Cristau, 2013-09-19] > Well, in Jakub's case the module does dlopen("libaa.so.1"), so while it > doesn't care about the interpreter's architecture, it does need the > libaa1 and python3 packages to be of the same architecture. AIUI > "Depends: python3:any, libaa1" doesn't express that? as

Bug#723736: RFA: lintian4python -- Debian package checker (for Python packages)

2013-09-19 Thread Jakub Wilk
Package: wnpp I want someone to take over development of lintian4python, as I no longer use this package. Description === Lintian dissects Debian packages and reports bugs and policy violations. It contains automated checks for many aspects of Debian policy as well as some checks fo

Disabling pip for root? (was: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages)

2013-09-19 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2013-09-18 09:36, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > 1) pip isn't for global package management, for this is stupid. If we > disabled root use of pip, I think we'd all be a bit happier. Very quick and very dirty patch attached. > 4) Python modules from dpkg are borderline useless for developer

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Stuart Prescott, 2013-09-19] > > I don't understand the pip hate. Why don't you guys try and, you know, > > figure out *why* these tools were invented. It (for sure) is overly > > simplistic, but it's there for a reason. > > It's pretty obvious why these tools were invented -- I think everyone >

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 14:33:00 -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 06:24:13PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > Following the “if it didn't happen on a mailing list, it didn't > > happen”, I repeat here what I said on IRC: > > > 12:26 < kwilk> So I rebuilt src:python-aalib, and I