Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Matthias Klose, 2014-05-19] > python-wheel.wheel > > becomes clear ... and it's the singular. IMO -wheel or -wheels is a better name - it's clear that the second "wheel" is not part of namespace this way. We already have -doc, -ext, etc. for special packages, lets keep "-" for wheels as well -

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Barry Warsaw, 2014-05-16] > Since you've mentioned this several times, I wonder if you can explain why you > prefer it over the build-wheels-at-package-build-time approach? * I don't want to promote .whl, .egg or anything else that is not even remotely comparable to .rpm or .deb, * I don't thin

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 19.05.2014 12:19, schrieb Piotr Ożarowski: > please at least unpack these wls files so that admins don't have to > figure out what to do with them if they want to apply a patch from > upstream no, you don't gain anything by this. we don't unpack jar files either. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Matthias Klose , 2014-05-19, 12:44: we don't unpack jar files either. Fortunately, we don't have to mimic all the Java misfeatures. -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Donald Stufft
Unpacking the Wheel files will trigger pip to see them as installed and it will attempt to uninstall them if it needs to. If they are going to be unpacked it’ll need to have the .dist-info directory removed from the unpacked locations in order to prevent that from happening. On May 19, 2014, at 7:

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >* I don't want to promote .whl, .egg or anything else that is not even > remotely comparable to .rpm or .deb, In fact, the second draft of the policy that I posted explicitly prohibits wheels except in some specific, described cases. >* I do

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 19, 2014, at 07:21 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: >Unpacking the Wheel files will trigger pip to see them as installed and it >will attempt to uninstall them if it needs to. If they are going to be >unpacked it’ll need to have the .dist-info directory removed from the >unpacked locations in order

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 19, 2014, at 01:33 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: >I would like to avoid different wheel directories in /usr/share, so if the >name of the wheel encodes the python version, then they probably can live in >the same directory. PEP 427 provides a tagging scheme that allows differentiation in the f

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 19, 2014, at 02:12 PM, Robert Collins wrote: >Did you consider using python-wheels-urllib3 ? I didn't because usually we use a suffix for related packages, as Piotr pointed out, e.g. python-foo-doc, python-foo-bin, python-foo-common, etc. -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 19, 2014 9:55:22 AM EDT, Barry Warsaw wrote: >On May 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: ... >>* I don't think we should force maintainers to do changes in their >> packages if it's not really needed, >> (not to mention additional work for ftpmasters) > >The additional ftpmaster

Re: wheel support for Debian?

2014-05-19 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Ditto, I can help in the same capacity. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On May 19, 2014 9:55:22 AM EDT, Barry Warsaw wrote: >>On May 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > ... >>>* I don't think we should force maintainers to do changes in their >>> packages

Request to join python-apps

2014-05-19 Thread Alexander Alemayhu
Hei, I was on the #debian-python IRC channel on irc.efnet.org earlier. I want to join the python-apps team and have already sent a request in the web interface on alioth. My intention is to adopt postr[0] within the team and maintain it together with Yoann Gauthier. Is there any official process t

Re: Join the Team

2014-05-19 Thread Vincent Cheng
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Hugo Lefeuvre wrote: > Hi Vincent, > >> Welcome (in advance) to the team! Please let me know if you're >> subscribed to the list, so I can stop cc-ing you. > > Thank you ! I've made it. > > I've already followed Lucas Nussbaum's tutorial for a week (which is > very

Re: Request to join python-apps

2014-05-19 Thread Vincent Cheng
Hi Alexander, On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Alexander Alemayhu wrote: > Hei, > > I was on the #debian-python IRC channel on irc.efnet.org earlier. I want to irc.efnet.org? Don't you mean OFTC (or its alias irc.debian.org)? > join the python-apps team and have already sent a request in the w