igrations, but there are no
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default, where do f.e. -doc packages go now?
They also go to extra.
optional:
"This is all the software that you might reasonably want to install if
you didn't know what it was ."
... so you think people who don't know what osmalchemy is need to
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reason...
Because of
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e release of stretch.
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t branch names yet. I like standards, so
> I'd prefer one described in DEP but they're not compatible with git-dpm,
> unfortunately.
I'd suggest to use jessie-backports and add a debian/gbp.conf, which
tells gbp to point to that branch.
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Yes, I don't use it anymore so it would be great if you could take care of it.
Ruben removed me after I suggested to do so.
Cheers and thanks,
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Am 20. Juni 2015 05:55:33 MESZ, schrieb Vincent Cheng :
>Hi Bernd,
>
>Are you stepping down as uploader for pyusb? You've been recently
>
thon-qt3 maintainers
> willing
> to continue with the python-qt3 maintenance wrt upstream work?
I think python-qt3 should be removed, so raising the severity of the mentioned
bugs (again?) would be a good start.
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anymore - I'm trying to reduce the list of my packages instead of adding new
ones.
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package and zope2.12 could be removed
without blocking the itroduction of 2.13 by doing so. If really
necessary Zope 2.12 could be removed from testing and stick in a broken
state in unstable until its fixed.
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les team and commit your changes to the svn and ask
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of example on how you coudl do it, search for the VersionedSharedLibrary
function...
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t least 1.0.7+dfsg
Would it fail to build with 1.0.7 or would it just ship non-dfsg stuff
when built againt the version without +dfsg?
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.egg files in Debian. Just have a look at the various examples on how to
package a Python modules properly in the team's svn repository.
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On 08/13/2011 06:56 PM, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
> On 14/08/2011 00:53, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 08/10/2011 01:35 PM, Olivier Sallou wrote:
>>> I am on sid and changes file specify unstable distrib
>>>
>>> Whatever, package should be ok now (at least from lin
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>>>> <
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysql-python/files/mysql-python/1.2.3/MySQL-python-1.2.3.tar.gz/download
>
>
> hey,
>
> i'm busy and don't expect to have time for python-mysqldb in debian
> anytime soon
d, but for me it works well enough.
For cases where you run code in a mod-wsgi daemon you should read
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a part of the modules in the package, or they have recommended packages
which are installed but not used by your daemon... and so on.
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On 06/20/2011 10:34 AM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> Since python doesn't keep .py files open its hard to use things like
>> checkrestart to find out which servers to restart when upgrading a
>> python library for security updates. I wonder if a dpkg triggers bas
bout watching the pyc files instead?
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On 06/07/2011 11:39 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> but pysupport is not deprecated so you cannot file bugs and ask people
> to convert now
Can we please do so for Wheezy?
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> distro which is not very great I believe.
One branch with the proper debian/gbp.conf should be enough, I think.
Just make sure you build with a chroot according to the diustro you want
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On 05/03/2011 10:36 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 09:49, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 05/02/2011 04:45 PM, Arto Jantunen wrote:
>>> How about concentrating on getting rid of dh_python and python-central
>>> for wheezy? My understanding is tha
on should be gone already, I hope.
python-support is kinda sane implemented, so I wouldn't mind to keepo it
for yet another release - but I think we should get rid of it, too.
Btw, is there any lintian check to see if the ld dh_python is being
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eople laughing at us.
>
> How about concentrating on fixing things that *are* broken?
The existance of now 3 helper tools is one of the biggest and long
standing issues we have. It is about time to fix it, and now is a good
time to start it. At least we can try
On 04/29/2011 09:14 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Apr 28, 2011, at 02:41 PM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>
>> I can't see any problemswith pysupport here -
>> http://wiki.debian.org/Python/PythonSupportToDHPython2
>> The migration is well documented and if there is something
(Perhaps?) controversial: python-support -> dh_python2
I can't see any problemswith pysupport here -
http://wiki.debian.org/Python/PythonSupportToDHPython2
The migration is well documented and if there is something to fix in
-support to make a migration happen, I'm happy to upload it.
ting with the dependencies.
Please remember that applications go into the python applications team's
repository, which libraries into the modules team...
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> http://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0386/
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-April/099729.html
Piotr, I think Jan suggested that you give a talk or tutorial :P
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And the git-buildpackage upstream is sane and quick on fixing bugs.
Definitely the best idea imho.
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the pristine-tar options.
Some projects decide not to store upstream source in the repository -
but if it is done, then yes please use pristine-tar.
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which works on a single repository only.
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vide some well tested scripts which handle all these things
sanely I could imagine that nobody would complain about a migration to git.
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Let me turn that around: why would you *not* want to use a Python based dVCS?
Because none is as advanced as git is.
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ted it should ensure that no network is being
used for tests. Otherwise I'm all for automatic testing :)
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k it would be a good idea to enable this as default due to
the fun part of setuptools which starts to download random eggs from the
internet when they're not available. My guess would eb that a lot of
packages would miss that and we'd run into failures on th
On 01/10/2011 10:58 AM, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote:
I initially filled it as ITP, but I'm more concentrating on packaging
other things, so I would like to ask, is someone of the Python
Application team interested to package gsh under your Group umbrella?
Do we really need yet another tool like
On 11/29/2010 12:27 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>> Of course you are still welcome to update packages, please send the according
>> patches to me and I'll apply them.
>
> Please apply the patch in attach.
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On 10/26/2010 06:04 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>>
>> I don't mind that beginners in packaging have write access to our
>> repositories,
>> assuming that they're willing to learn the necessary detail
eginners in packaging have write access to our repositories,
assuming that they're willing to learn the necessary details during their work
within the team. But as you're neither willing to learn how packaging software
for Debian works, nor you seem to know the necessary basics like make
On 10/21/2010 05:52 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The Alioth page lists wrong paths for SVN repositories:
> https://alioth.debian.org/scm/?group_id=30714
That url should work fine. But you might want to report it to the alioth admins.
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d just fix
the packages instead. And easier transition would be to provide dh_pycentral and
ph_pysupport wrappers which just do the right thing, together with a lintian
error telling people that they need to fix their packages. And of course upload
transitional -central and -support packages.
Chee
On 09/27/2010 09:14 PM, Toni Mueller wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 27.09.2010 at 00:10:35 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> Yes, and? We will have Python2.5 in Lenny thanks to your own fault of
>> starting
>> the transition more than half a year too late. Please don
esn't build
> without libnpymath.a .
That is usually a static library.
http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Program-Library-HOWTO/static-libraries.html
The question would be: why do they need a static library and is it possible to
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> Or that use existing helper in "interesting" ways. Yay for diversity.
I think this should be fixed before Squeeze is released.
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>> Why do minutes need to be "polished" ... ?
>
> Maybe polished isn't the correct term. What I meant was: reviewed by all
> attendees to check if everyone agrees with what's in that document (i.e.
> what has been discussed during the BoF).
I don't wan
init__.py file
Actually it should not matter what it does as python-support should do the right
thing and the end, but you'll have to test it... And in case it fails to install
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otherwise.
Also please test the installation properly, it might happen that the "Namespace
packages and broken modules" part of /usr/share/doc/python-support/README.gz
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uldn't know how to
> fix problems in those bindings.
>
> OTOH, I don't have a better suggestion. :(
The real proper suggest is to put it into collab-maint.
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due to the non-freeness of fastcgi.
>
> Only for apache. FastCGI support is built-in in e.g. lighttpd which is
> in main.
>
There is libapache2-mod-fcgid in main which is a proper replacement for the
fastcgi module.
But you might want to use wsgi with apache anyway ...
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CCing the real one :)
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On 07/07/2010 07:18 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 12:21 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> Welcome to the team, I've added you some seconds ago.
>> Please make sure you read our policy
>> http://python-modules.alioth.debian.org/python-modules-policy.html
&
On 06/30/2010 05:03 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Hi Bernd and Yaroslav, hi again debian-python,
>
> So, if I summarize:
>
> Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 06/28/2010 04:34 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>>> AFAIK:
>>>
>>> - regular p
lace to join is
#debian-python on the OFTC network.
Hint: usually we don't sponsor packages which are not in the team's svn
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ow much easier
> bug/problem triage in Python extensions using debug build of Python
also - and that is the much more important imho part for pyside - if you want to
run something else in the debug interpreter which uses pyside, you need the _d
build of pyside, too.
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as it is a bit urgent to get the Python transition done I've uploaded a fixed
package to delayed/1. Please let me know if I should remove or delay it, but it
would be appreciated if the problems could be fixed ASAP.
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ckages.
> So how do I force depends to be set to ensure the correct version of python
> is installed, or how to I ensure that either version of python will look in
> either location for the modules??
Both ways are wrong. python-support handles that for you (in case you're using
non-priv
l fields just makes the mess bigger.
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kly! :)
The reason behind the -guest is that the accounts from the debian ldap are
synchronized with alioth, so it is necessary to have a way to distinguish
between DDs and non-DDs, especially to ensure that an account is not used on
alioth already when a new DD requests to have the name.
Hop
.6 bug by disabling the
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: pybindgen
Upstream Author : Gustavo Carneiro
* URL : https://launchpad.net/pybindgen/
* License : GNU LGPL v2.1
Programming Lang: Python/C/C++
Description : Python bindings generator
PyBindGen is a Python module t
back my way!
I think Fabio (kob...@d.o) also wanted to / is working on a backport, might make
sense to co-maintain that with him. CCed him :)
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act below)
>
The other option is using python-anyjson, although I start to wonder how they
make a difference betweek py2.6's json and python-json, if its necessary at all
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Package: python-asterisk
Version: 0.1a3+r160-4
Severity: important
Tags: patch
User: debian-python@lists.debian.org
Usertags: python2.6
python-asterisk ftbfs with Python2.6, which will hit unstable soon.
Please import the changes from Ubuntu, which fixed the bugs (hopefully):
https://launchpad.ne
git;a=blob;f=.pbuilderrc;h=b1b9517bc31b3a3e36de87b9c1a2474f709e0b4b;hb=HEAD
Then all you need to do is pbuilder --create if your debian/changelog says
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nt overrides, and I think such
> overrides are an indicator that the specific check is inappropriate.
Usually an override is a fail in the maintainer's brain or a bug in lintian.
Only in rare cases overrides are the right way to go.
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> created; is it in a part of Policy that I've overlooked?
There is no need to use a .dirs file if setup.py creates the directory for you.
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The last time we had such an issue it was due to the setup.py doing weird things
(like creating the to-be-installed script on the fly). I didn't have the time to
investigate in zhone, but I'm kinda sure its an issue with its setup.py.
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> favourite language, Python, but may need to be rewritten in Perl for
> inclusion in debhelper:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2009/08/msg6.html
Time for a python binding to debhelper then? ;) But indeed the only proper way
to write a debhelper tool is in perl.
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> If however the *env python scheme is enforced in the policy the problems
> I outlined in my original post are solved without additional problems
> (?). If there are any i would like to know about them!
There are probably not more problems than the
bian-python on OFTC and just ask for help.
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Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009 à 02:23 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit :
>> The patch looks pretty much hackish and I could imagine that it will break a
>> backport of cdbs to Lenny as python2.4 is called with --install-layout=deb,
>> too.
>
>
and is why you need to tar the directories and
rename them... or so.
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> to use it instead
If there is really a consensus about that, it would not be too hard to implement
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t; SL> archives.
>
>> Mailing list archives are not documentation.
>
> They're documentation that you're wrong. Stop wasting my time.
Oh snap. Come on Steve, the only useful written documentation about the new
Python policy was (is?) a wiki page.
ort is easy:
- the upstream author is responsive
- the upstream author fixes bugs in time
- it just works as expected
- it doesn't need such ugly workarounds like "nomove"
That alone are more than enough reasons to to use -central. Its not my fault
that the upstreams of both help
which have the Python versions limited to <<2.5, so they'll be
gone as soon as Python 2.4 is removed.
So I fail to see a reason why the XS-Foo stuff is necessary.
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se do not even think about talking about the so called Python policy, which
is not maintained at all, does not reflect the current state of packaging, is
missing a lot of information and is far away from reality. Even Manoj managed to
write a much more complete version of the policy out o
was lintian clean on rel 0.8.6-rc5, then I did 'dch -v 0.8.6' and
>> dch required -b option as felt 0.8.6-rc5 was grater than 0.8.6.
>
> it is. You should have used “0.8.6~rc5”, which sorts lower than
> “0.8.6”, while “0.8.6-rc5” sorts higher.
dpkg --compare-versions is
hat were discussed often
enough, no need to start that again.
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Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz (28/08/2009):
>> long time, actually there is even a plan (at least in my head) to
>> make it possible to have modules in git or svn while still being
>> able to checkout all of them in a useful way, but that means writing
>> new
make sense indeed, so I'm not sure what the best
way to handle this is *now* - on the long run I;m sure we'll find a way to
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Toni Mueller wrote:
>
> What's the right way to fix this, please?
No real idea, but I'd give python-support a try. Often it just works then...
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Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> with debhelper >= 7.3.5 it is possible to build Python extensions and -dbg
> packages, as long as they come with a distutils/setuptools based setup.py.
In case you're looking for examples: python-usb and python-cjson use the new dh
now. python-cjson builds
ter in this version. If an according build-dependency was found, the dbg
extensions will be built. As they'll end up in debian/tmp together with the
normal build, you'll have to write proper debian/package.install files to put
them into the right package.
Let me know if you find any prob
depend on setup.py's executable bit (i.e. add "python ")
or just use dh, see above :)
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f you have any questions...
http://python-modules.alioth.debian.org/python-modules-policy.html
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Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> b...@think /tmp/A% pyversions -r
> pyversions: error parsing Python-Version attribute
> 1 b...@think /tmp/A% pyversions -s
> python2.4 python2.5
> b...@think /tmp/A%
>
> Doesn't seem so...
*sigh* it works well if there is a debian/control fil
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 18 juin 2009 à 10:33 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit :
>> Use pyversions -s if pyversions -r fails. pyversions -s will work always as
>> it
>> lists all supported Python versions. If a package doesn'tlimit itself to
>> Python
>
hould also be built with all Python versions to ensure they won't
fail to build at install time when pysupport compiles them. If a package breaks
due to that, it is *not* a bug in dh but a bug in the package.
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tool, which gets more testing and will have less bugs than
> current concurrent solutions.
Ack. Please guys, get together, discuss it in a *sane* way (why do I fear that's
not possible...) and merge both tools or drop both of them and do something else
useful - together.
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Hi!
Ondrej Certik wrote:
> is it ok if I upload 0.10.3-1? E.g. will it break the sage build (or
> anything else)?
Lenny will be released in 5 days - is it really a problem to wait for that?
Bernd
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package in the meantime can use experimental, that's what experimental is for.
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efore I do prefer
> bzr over hg over svn over others.
In my opinion git is much more intuitive than any other tool - but you have to
climb a bit on the learning curve before you realize it.
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Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Tristan Seligmann (20/12/2008):
>> My personal preference ordering would probably be:
>>
>> hg, bzr, svn, git
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> git, FD, *
+1 :)
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