Re: GUI tool for packaging

2012-11-15 Thread Thomas Kluyver
Hi Clint, On 15 November 2012 03:53, Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com wrote: https://launchpad.net/pkgme At one point I was interested in writing a ruby backend for this, but got distracted and moved to other focus, but I think it solves what you are talking about, without need to develop a

Re: GUI tool for packaging

2012-11-15 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:17:40AM +, Thomas Kluyver wrote: I have been keeping an eye on pkgme, but I'm not sure it solves the problem. My concern with automated tools is that they tend to to work for about 75% of stuff, but there's always a substantial proportion of things that just do

Re: GUI tool for packaging

2012-11-15 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On 15 November 2012 15:18, Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote: Bottom line: if you want to get a good package, it's not always possible to fully automate that, especially in cases of complex (and proprietary) software like that you mentioned, and so a GUI wizard can't do everything

Re: GUI tool for packaging

2012-11-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 15, 2012, at 04:15 PM, Thomas Kluyver wrote: - uscan puts upstream tarballs into ../, but svn-buildpackage expects them in ../tarballs/ - To work on patches, you have the debian/ directory in amongst the upstream codebase. But having the rest of the codebase there clutters up information

Re: GUI tool for packaging

2012-11-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Thomas Kluyver tho...@kluyver.me.uk, 2012-11-09, 13:19: - Do you think this is worth spending time on? I don't think so, sorry. -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: GUI tool for packaging

2012-11-14 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On 14 November 2012 11:43, Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org wrote: I don't think so, sorry. Could you expand on this at all? Do you think that packaging should be left to the experts? Or that the existing systems are easy enough for newcomers to learn? Thomas

Re: GUI tool for packaging

2012-11-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Kluyver's message of 2012-11-09 05:19:03 -0800: This is an idea I've had knocking around for a while. Packaging is complex - there are lots of different tools and syntaxes you have to understand to do a good job of it - quilt, debhelper, watch files, etc. - along with

GUI tool for packaging

2012-11-09 Thread Thomas Kluyver
This is an idea I've had knocking around for a while. Packaging is complex - there are lots of different tools and syntaxes you have to understand to do a good job of it - quilt, debhelper, watch files, etc. - along with specialist terminology. I know various CLI tools aim to simplify things, but

Re: GUI tool for packaging

2012-11-09 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 13:19 +, Thomas Kluyver wrote: In my opinion, the best way to do that is to build a GUI that holds the user's hand through the process of packaging, showing them the options available. It should be particularly useful for occasional packagers who don't want to