Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-20 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 04:23, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Andi, Matthias, > > I'd like to apologise for being unnecessarily aggressive yesterday. I > guess I'm becoming too suspicious against many developers as a result of > the behaviour of only a very few ones. > > I hope it won't serve as an excu

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-20 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 10:03:05AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050620 05:47]: > > Not everyone can be in an IRC discussion. There are pesky things like > > sleep, work, and Real Life that mean that it's not possible for > > everyone to participate in a real-ti

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Andi, Matthias, I'd like to apologise for being unnecessarily aggressive yesterday. I guess I'm becoming too suspicious against many developers as a result of the behaviour of only a very few ones. I hope it won't serve as an excuse for even less discussion that what we have currently. I happen t

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-20 Thread Andreas Barth
* John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050620 05:47]: > Not everyone can be in an IRC discussion. There are pesky things like > sleep, work, and Real Life that mean that it's not possible for > everyone to participate in a real-time discussion. I think IRC meetings are fine for teams like the rele

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 04:39:23AM +0300, Ognyan Kulev wrote: > Andreas Barth wrote: > > Ok, convinced. No more minutes to debian-release. If we want to present > > properly, we need to take time to polish the mails. Minutes will be > > hidden in future to avoid misunderstandings. I hope that you'

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Andreas Barth wrote: > Ok, convinced. No more minutes to debian-release. If we want to present > properly, we need to take time to polish the mails. Minutes will be > hidden in future to avoid misunderstandings. I hope that you'll be more > happy with that. I am desparate that this is necessary.

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 10:44:17PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: >Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 ? 22:28 +0200, Andreas Barth a ?crit : >> Ok, convinced. No more minutes to debian-release. If we want to present >> properly, we need to take time to polish the mails. Minutes will be >> hidden in future t

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 22:28 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : > Ok, convinced. No more minutes to debian-release. If we want to present > properly, we need to take time to polish the mails. Minutes will be > hidden in future to avoid misunderstandings. I hope that you'll be more > happy with tha

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050619 22:17]: > Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 21:45 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : > > There is a simple reason for discussing that topic in the release team > > meeting: Our current RC policy makes any violation against the current > > python policy an RC bug.

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 21:45 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : > Nothing else has yet been discussed, except that I will speak with > Matthias at debconf (and mind you, I would probably speak with him even > without this meeting and me being member of the release team :). IMHO > (one of) the most

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, please keep the heat level low. You summarrized the result quite nicely with: > There's a need for change, this is for sure. and > I agree on waiting for the C++ ABI change > completion before starting to move python stuff. Nothing else has yet been discussed, except that I will speak with Ma

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 21:07 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : > [Joss, not keeping the people addressed you are ranting at, is just > another point of rudeness] Sorry, I forgot to Cc you. > For your wrong claims: There is no private discussion, the meeting was > public. I don't remember seei

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread Matthias Klose
[Joss, not keeping the people addressed you are ranting at, is just another point of rudeness] For your wrong claims: There is no private discussion, the meeting was public. AFAIK Debconf is public as well. I don't know how this is Vancouver related, I wasn't there, nor did I meet Andreas before

Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18

2005-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Andreas Barth wrote: > - python policy/implementation needs review - doko and aba will discuss > that on debconf probably Is it the new way things work since the Vancouver meeting? Discussing things privately instead of using the dedicated mailing lists? I'd have thought that this list was the p