Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 13 octobre 2007 à 18:29 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit : > > Given the number of packages that don't follow the policy or declare > > wrong values in XS-Python-Version, for most packages it was possible to > > decide only by looking at debian/rules by hand. > > Policy does not require to s

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-13 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
> Given the number of packages that don't follow the policy or declare > wrong values in XS-Python-Version, for most packages it was possible to > decide only by looking at debian/rules by hand. Policy does not require to set XS-Python-Version except for pycentral - at least that's how Manoj[1] a

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 22:40 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > Is there code available that can be used to reproduce this list from > Packages/Sources? I would very much prefer to be able to generate an > authoritative list of per-arch binaries that need to be binNMUed, so that > the progre

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:04:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > I cannot say that the situation looks good. Since the last transition, > many new packages have been introduced, and a large part of them don't > support the current policy. Another bad news is that it isn't possible > to rely on t

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-11 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
[-release dropped, as this subthread is no longer on topic.] Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If anyone has ideas about how to deal with such cases, I'm all open for > implementing them. It would be easy for python-support to maintain a > list of files that should be symbolic links

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 11 octobre 2007 à 14:44 -0400, Aaron M. Ucko a écrit : > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Still, it would be nice to build extensions for all python versions, but > > the fact they are private makes this process more complicated. > > ... particularly given that neither

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-11 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Still, it would be nice to build extensions for all python versions, but > the fact they are private makes this process more complicated. ... particularly given that neither python-support (which BitPim currently uses) nor python-central actually sup

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 08 octobre 2007 à 15:59 -0400, Aaron M. Ucko a écrit : > > The following packages need a round of binNMUs as soon as possible, to > > build extensions for python2.5, after which they shouldn't bother us. > > Can anyone schedule the binNMUs please? > > bitpim > > Please don't bothe

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-08 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The following packages need a round of binNMUs as soon as possible, to > build extensions for python2.5, after which they shouldn't bother us. > Can anyone schedule the binNMUs please? > bitpim Please don't bother with this one; BitPim actual

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 06 octobre 2007 à 13:26 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit : > I indeed didn't know about rtupdate - it seems to be missing on > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ As some changes that were accepted 7 months ago have still not been integrated into the policy, I wouldn't

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-06 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
> Which is quite annoying for the transition of python to testing. > > I have sent you a multi-build patch for mod-wsgi. As you can see, it > isn't that complicated. And for most packages in the list, the required > changes are much simpler. I indeed didn't know about rtupdate - it seems to be m

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 06 octobre 2007 à 12:21 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit : > > Sorry , but there is a very good reason to do so: If the default python > > version changes running applications with mod-wsgi will badly fail. > > Therefore it depends in a relaxed way (python <<2.5, but >=2.4) on the > > actual

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-06 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Le samedi 06 octobre 2007 à 09:07 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : >>> Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 20:04 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : The following packages should also work with python2.5 after a round of binNMUs, as some dependen

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-06 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 06 octobre 2007 à 09:07 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : >> Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 20:04 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : >>> The following packages should also work with python2.5 after a round of >>> binNMUs, as some dependencies were relaxed in python

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 06 octobre 2007 à 09:07 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : > Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 20:04 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : > > The following packages should also work with python2.5 after a round of > > binNMUs, as some dependencies were relaxed in python-support 0.7.4: > >

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 20:04 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : > The following packages should also work with python2.5 after a round of > binNMUs, as some dependencies were relaxed in python-support 0.7.4: > dia > exaile > k3d You can add: mod-wsgi which in

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 21:21 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : > Well, then, that's not going to happen before the toolchain gets fixed > on mips, because of > > > Here is the list: > (...) > > xulrunner Well, I don't think this transition will be done in a day. If, by the time that is

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-05 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 20:42 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit : >> You have missed Zope. >> It is not possible to run Zope 2.X with Python 2.5 yet, same for Zope 3. >> The problems in there are nothing a maintainer could fix, except >> somebody is willing to pay several

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:04:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Please note that they can all be binNMUed after python2.5 has become the > default, but all of them will have to migrate to testing at once. We > must make this list shorter unless we want this transition to recall bad > memories t

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 20:42 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit : > You have missed Zope. > It is not possible to run Zope 2.X with Python 2.5 yet, same for Zope 3. > The problems in there are nothing a maintainer could fix, except > somebody is willing to pay several days (weeks!?) of work. > Cha

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:04:27PM +, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Hi, > > I have conducted a thorough analysis of all packages preventing us from > migrating to python 2.5. Thanks a lot for the work ! > Now, for the bad news. The following packages have various kinds of > issues that preven

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-05 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
>>> Please note that they can all be binNMUed after python2.5 has become the >>> default, but all of them will have to migrate to testing at once. We >>> must make this list shorter unless we want this transition to recall bad >>> memories to the release team. >>> mod-wsgi >> It's not pos

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:42:46PM +, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Hi, > > > Now, for the bad news. The following packages have various kinds of > > issues that prevent them from working with python2.5. Some of them are > > trivial, some are much more tricky. In all cases, we need to focus on > > th

Re: Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-05 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi, > Now, for the bad news. The following packages have various kinds of > issues that prevent them from working with python2.5. Some of them are > trivial, some are much more tricky. In all cases, we need to focus on > these bugs if we want to see those packages in lenny: You have missed Zope.

Report on the situation of python2.5 in Debian

2007-10-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi, I have conducted a thorough analysis of all packages preventing us from migrating to python 2.5. I cannot say that the situation looks good. Since the last transition, many new packages have been introduced, and a large part of them don't support the current policy. Another bad news is that i