Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Timo, Am Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 04:08:51PM +0100 schrieb Timo Röhling: > I guess the motivation behind the weak collaboration model is that some > packages have hidden "gotchas", which a casual team uploader might not know. > For instance, pygit2 is one of multiple libgit2 language bindings

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Scott, Am Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 11:54:01PM + schrieb Scott Kitterman: > It's self-induced. I mean if it's demotivating to have people point out that > you didn't follow the policy, then you can solve that all by yourself by > following the policy. If I take your argument to its logical

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Andreas (2024.02.27_08:05:44_+) > I did what I usually do in those teams: I dedicated quite some time in > team wide bug hunting. That way I squashed about 50 bugs on packages > where I was not in Uploaders. Thank you for doing this work. I've come across a number of DPT bugs where

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On February 27, 2024 11:42:33 PM UTC, Thomas Goirand wrote: >On 2/27/24 19:32, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> I suspect that packages will be removed from team maintenance as a result >> though and I think that's a bad idea. > >If a package isn't in the team, any DD can ask for permission from the

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 2/27/24 19:32, Scott Kitterman wrote: I suspect that packages will be removed from team maintenance as a result though and I think that's a bad idea. If a package isn't in the team, any DD can ask for permission from the maintainer before an upload. So, what's the difference, with a

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Louis-Philippe Véronneau
On 2024-02-27 03:05, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, I became more deeply involved into DPT since 2022 as a consequence of the suggestion for transfering several Debian Med/Science packages to DPMT[1][2]. I happily followed this suggestion and moved >30 packages from the Blends teams to DPT. I was

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Arto Jantunen
Andreas Tille writes: > Since I consider the current situation as demotivating for newcomers > as well as long standing contributors I would like to suggest to drop > this "weak statement of collaboration" option from policy. I've attached > an according patch to the team policy[5]. I'm fine

Membership request

2024-02-27 Thread Nicolas Couture
Good day, As I met "pollo" this morning on OFTC after inquiring about helping out with the adoption of virtualenvwrapper or researching more into the state of packaging pyenv in Debian, he suggested a good starting point would be to read https://deb.li/PyPolicy which I had not until now and then

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On February 27, 2024 2:27:35 PM UTC, Scott Talbert wrote: >On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> On 2/27/24 09:05, Andreas Tille wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I became more deeply involved into DPT since 2022 as a consequence of >>> the suggestion for transfering several Debian Med/Science

Re: dh_python3: file in /usr/lib/python3.12/dist-packages ?

2024-02-27 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Carles (2024.02.26_00:00:48_+) > The first one includes, in top_level.txt: > debian > ping3 > > And the second one: > build > debian > ping3 > > Where "ping3" is the expected module. "debian" is there because of the > debian/ directory (I'm super sure, and AFAIK should not be there!) and

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread weepingclown
While perfectly understanding the weak collaboration model reasoning, I've still always found DPT as uploader and not maintainer rather absurd TBH. The current go to tool (as I understand it) for python packaging, py2dsp, also creates an initial packaging with team in uploaders section and the

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Martin
On 2024-02-27 15:15, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Though indeed, I don't > think it's reasonable to have a package in the team, but with strong > ownership. I believe that we should either have a package in the team, > or not. Period. I'm in favour of that change, too, but I can live with the current

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Timo Röhling
Hi, * Andreas Tille [2024-02-27 09:05]: Since I consider the current situation as demotivating for newcomers as well as long standing contributors I would like to suggest to drop this "weak statement of collaboration" option from policy. +1 from me. I guess the motivation behind the weak

+1 (Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy)

2024-02-27 Thread Jochen Sprickerhof
* Thomas Goirand [2024-02-27 15:15]: So I'm 100% with you for the removal of this policy. +1 to everything. Cheers Jochen signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Scott Talbert
On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 2/27/24 09:05, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, I became more deeply involved into DPT since 2022 as a consequence of the suggestion for transfering several Debian Med/Science packages to DPMT[1][2]. I happily followed this suggestion and moved >30

Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 2/27/24 09:05, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, I became more deeply involved into DPT since 2022 as a consequence of the suggestion for transfering several Debian Med/Science packages to DPMT[1][2]. I happily followed this suggestion and moved >30 packages from the Blends teams to DPT. I was

Suggesting change in DPT policy

2024-02-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I became more deeply involved into DPT since 2022 as a consequence of the suggestion for transfering several Debian Med/Science packages to DPMT[1][2]. I happily followed this suggestion and moved >30 packages from the Blends teams to DPT. I was happy with this move since it makes sense.