Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-15 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Hello, Le jeudi 13 novembre 2014 à 01:07:52, Christian Kastner a écrit : On 2014-11-13 12:43, Stéphane Aulery wrote: I'm sorry my English is poor and I can hardly do better. I wanted to summarize the main ideas of the second paragraph on page [1] which I find very good. The maintainer

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 03:54:05PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Excellent; thanks. I'm going to make these gender-neutral, and then I'll commit them. This is the last chance for someone to object to entry-point as the tag name. If I hear no objections, I'll put this in place on Friday, around

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2014-11-13 09:42, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 07:42:33PM +0100, Stéphane Aulery wrote: entry-point The maintainer can easily solve this bug by himself, but he wants to take it to new contributors who wish to get involved in Debian. Bugs of any difficulty

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le jeudi 13 novembre 2014 à 11:51:51, Christian Kastner a écrit : On 2014-11-13 09:42, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I don't think we should include the initial part about maintainer can easily solve..., as it does seems a bit patronizing (that's easy for me, but I won't do it because...).

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2014-11-13 12:43, Stéphane Aulery wrote: I'm sorry my English is poor and I can hardly do better. I wanted to summarize the main ideas of the second paragraph on page [1] which I find very good. The maintainer should know the first glance by reading the description if it can offer the bug

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 à 03:54:05, Don Armstrong a écrit : This is the last chance for someone to object to entry-point as the tag name. If I hear no objections, I'll put this in place on Friday, around 18:00 UTC. I am looking for an idea in a nutshell. I'm not English so it's hard for

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-13 Thread David
On 14 November 2014 00:59, Stéphane Aulery saul...@free.fr wrote: Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 à 03:54:05, Don Armstrong a écrit : This is the last chance for someone to object to entry-point as the tag name. If I hear no objections, I'll put this in place on Friday, around 18:00 UTC.

Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers

2014-11-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 11. November 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts about elevating the gift tag to a fully-fledged BTS tag? yes: yay! are my thoughts :-) cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the maintainer needs or wants help; these are basically a superset of entry-point, and bugs which are more difficult than it would be reasonable for a new contributor to help. I suppose it would be

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-12 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:54:50, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:07:31, Don Armstrong a écrit : The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the maintainer needs or wants help; these are basically a superset

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:54:50, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:07:31, Don Armstrong a écrit : The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the maintainer needs

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: In fact, I believe they should be mostly disjoint. As a maintainer, I welcome help on all bugs. When I tag a bug help it's because I believe that I don't have the skills to fix it by myself and that external help is really needed to make some

Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers

2014-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Have you considered adding the 'gift' tag[0] to some BTS bugs? I probably should do that; I actually wasn't that familiar with the gift tag before this e-mail. how-can-i-help now uses this tag to list bugs affecting Debian infrastructure in a

Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers

2014-11-11 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 11/11/14 at 14:13 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Have you considered adding the 'gift' tag[0] to some BTS bugs? I probably should do that; I actually wasn't that familiar with the gift tag before this e-mail. how-can-i-help now uses this tag to

Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers

2014-11-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 02:13:09PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Have you considered adding the 'gift' tag[0] to some BTS bugs? I probably should do that; I actually wasn't that familiar with the gift tag before this e-mail. Just to share a recent

Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I am totally in favor of turning it into a real tag. There has been discussions about renaming the tag (see thread starting at https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/09/msg00096.html ; my personal preference is entry-point

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 02:45:26, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I am totally in favor of turning it into a real tag. There has been discussions about renaming the tag (see thread starting at

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 02:45:26, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I am totally in favor of turning it into a real tag. There has been discussions about renaming the tag (see thread starting at

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:07:31, Don Armstrong a écrit : The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the maintainer needs or wants help; these are basically a superset of entry-point, and bugs which are more difficult than it would be reasonable for a new contributor to help.

Re: Making entry-point nee gift a real BTS tag [Re: Facilitating contributions by newcomers]

2014-11-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Stéphane Aulery wrote: Le mardi 11 novembre 2014 à 03:07:31, Don Armstrong a écrit : The existing help tag is really for bugs for which the maintainer needs or wants help; these are basically a superset of entry-point, and bugs which are more difficult than it would